07-19-2019, 11:50 AM
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#41
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by Shin Pad
The renderings I saw, including the one on the CBC news site, are absolutely awful. I hope that's not what it ends up looking like.
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It's not. The actual design is far, far off. No design team has even been selected yet. This image floating around is just part of a study done to show the area from a contextual standpoint, nothing more.
It's unfortunate that image is being shown by the media the way it is.
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07-19-2019, 11:51 AM
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#42
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But will my socks be knocked off?
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Looks like you'll need one long before I will. May I suggest deflection king?
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07-19-2019, 11:51 AM
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#43
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by shermanator
So this city is facing a funding crisis due to the high number of vacancies in the commercial sector, is trying to pause the development of a new transit line, is panicking on how to provide relief to small businesses, yet it has money to put towards a new arena?
Doesn't pass the smell test to me.
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You're talking about Capital funding vs. Operational funding - giving taxpayers the portion they're going to spend on this arena would help lower it a bit for one year, but then they'd be right back up the following year. They're trying to reduce operating costs to keep the tax rate lower.
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07-19-2019, 11:53 AM
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#44
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15
But will my socks be knocked off?
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Depends, are you wearing sandals?
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07-19-2019, 11:55 AM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
Depends, are you wearing sandals?
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Hockeyguy15 is the kind of person that probably wears socks with sandals.
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07-19-2019, 11:59 AM
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#46
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Muta
Hockeyguy15 is the kind of person that probably wears socks with sandals.
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I'm just waiting for something to knock them off.
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Looks like you'll need one long before I will. May I suggest deflection king?
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07-19-2019, 12:03 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
After years of hype and close shaves... well, it's hard to comprehend that it might actually be happening.
Agree with Rando -- this thing better look amazing. Maybe not as distinctive as the Saddledome, but just gorgeous inside and out.
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You're old enough to shave? 
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07-19-2019, 12:04 PM
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#48
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
It's not. The actual design is far, far off. No design team has even been selected yet. This image floating around is just part of a study done to show the area from a contextual standpoint, nothing more.
It's unfortunate that image is being shown by the media the way it is.
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The description doesn’t help either.
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This conceptual drawing of a new hockey arena in Victoria Park is from the Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corporation, which owns the Calgary Flames. It shows what a proposed arena would look like at 12th Avenue and Fourth Street S.E. (Rossetti/Calgary Flames)
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07-19-2019, 12:04 PM
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#49
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Eric Francis @EricFrancis
Can confirm Flames owners’ investment in the city-owned arena will be significantly more than what Daryl Katz contributed to the arena in Edmonton. Flames would run the arena, which will be owned by the city. Again, the parameters of the deal are all subject to council vote
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07-19-2019, 12:05 PM
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#50
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shermanator
So this city is facing a funding crisis due to the high number of vacancies in the commercial sector, is trying to pause the development of a new transit line, is panicking on how to provide relief to small businesses, yet it has money to put towards a new arena?
Doesn't pass the smell test to me.
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Ryan Pike
@RyanNPike
A distinction: any arena funds from #yyccc would be from capital grants which can ONLY be used to build stuff. The current tax hubbub and service cuts (also on Monday's agenda) come from operational funds, which are completely different and funded by taxes.
In the last iteration (July 2017) of the deal, the funding for the City's $175m cash contribution was from leftover funding from previous infrastructure grants identified during Infrastructure Calgary process.
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07-19-2019, 12:13 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sleepingmoose
You're talking about Capital funding vs. Operational funding - giving taxpayers the portion they're going to spend on this arena would help lower it a bit for one year, but then they'd be right back up the following year. They're trying to reduce operating costs to keep the tax rate lower.
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Ryan Pike
@RyanNPike
A distinction: any arena funds from #yyccc would be from capital grants which can ONLY be used to build stuff. The current tax hubbub and service cuts (also on Monday's agenda) come from operational funds, which are completely different and funded by taxes.
In the last iteration (July 2017) of the deal, the funding for the City's $175m cash contribution was from leftover funding from previous infrastructure grants identified during Infrastructure Calgary process.
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Thanks for this. Makes more sense now.
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07-19-2019, 12:17 PM
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#52
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Eric Francis @EricFrancis
Can confirm Flames owners’ investment in the city-owned arena will be significantly more than what Daryl Katz contributed to the arena in Edmonton. Flames would run the arena, which will be owned by the city. Again, the parameters of the deal are all subject to council vote
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Meaningless statement. The Flames have always pitched themselves as contributing significantly more than what Katz did but the reality was that they were only proposing contributing significantly more upfront (but less over the life of the lease agreement) to the extent that the sum contribution was pretty comparable.
Regardless doing this on the same day you're discussing 60M in budget cuts (including hefty cuts to transit and emergency services) is remarkably bad timing from an optics standpoint.
Last edited by Parallex; 07-19-2019 at 12:20 PM.
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07-19-2019, 12:22 PM
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#53
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First Line Centre
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It's going to happen.
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07-19-2019, 12:27 PM
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#54
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Once again let me say I look forward to drinking $15 beer from your new inverted bowl Calgary!
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07-19-2019, 12:29 PM
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#55
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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I still fully expect a swarmy Gary Bettman and Ken King to appear and pull the football out on Monday.
I'm still feeling salty about that from last time. It put such a damper on the season's excitement.
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07-19-2019, 12:29 PM
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#56
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Originally Posted by Toonage
Once again let me say I look forward to drinking $15 beer from your new inverted bowl Calgary!
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You can always pre drink then do the old mini btl into your soda trick...
Or say mostly sober for the game and remember the 3rd period
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07-19-2019, 12:35 PM
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#57
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Originally Posted by Parallex
Regardless doing this on the same day you're discussing 60M in budget cuts (including hefty cuts to transit and emergency services) is remarkably bad timing from an optics standpoint.
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Should the city not spend capital grants because they're making operational cuts?
It's not like they can put one towards the other.
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07-19-2019, 12:35 PM
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#58
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
You can always pre drink then do the old mini btl into your soda trick...
Or say mostly sober for the game and remember the 3rd period |
We'll see where the prices land but I'm guessing that choice will mostly be made for me!
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07-19-2019, 12:35 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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Looking forward to Monday!
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07-19-2019, 12:37 PM
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#60
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Eric Francis @EricFrancis
Can confirm Flames owners’ investment in the city-owned arena will be significantly more than what Daryl Katz contributed to the arena in Edmonton. Flames would run the arena, which will be owned by the city. Again, the parameters of the deal are all subject to council vote
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Lol, classic flames.
"We're bad but at least we aren't Edmonton-bad."
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