06-30-2019, 07:59 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Rando
Kyle Turris?
And I like Duchesne but he's still a bit of an enigma for me. Had a big season overall but that's a big contract for a guy who's been up and down. The odds of a 20 goal 50 point year next season is just as likely as 30 goals and 700 points.
Put me in the Meh catagory for this contract.
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If he gets 700 points next season his $8M is going to be deemed the bargain of the century.
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06-30-2019, 08:00 PM
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#22
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
Duchene, Johansson, turris.
I'm sorry, but that's whole lotta 2nd line centers....
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I’m told that’s the way to win.
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06-30-2019, 08:01 PM
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#23
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
Duchene, Johansson, turris.
I'm sorry, but that's whole lotta 2nd line centers....
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Well, if you are saying Duchene and Johansen are second line centers, that is still better than the Flames.
By this logic, the Flames have one 2nd line center (Monahan) and 2 3rd line centers (Backlund and Ryan).
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06-30-2019, 08:03 PM
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#24
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rando
Kyle Turris?
And I like Duchesne but he's still a bit of an enigma for me. Had a big season overall but that's a big contract for a guy who's been up and down. The odds of a 20 goal 50 point year next season is just as likely as 30 goals and 70 points.
Put me in the Meh catagory for this contract.
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Didn't he have that contract when the trade went down and wasn't he good back then? I thought he was more of a "fall off" than a bad deal. Could be wrong, though.
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06-30-2019, 08:03 PM
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#25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Well, if you are saying Duchene and Johansen are second line centers, that is still better than the Flames.
By this logic, the Flames have one 2nd line center (Monahan) and 2 3rd line centers (Backlund and Ryan).
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I don't know that i would take any of Nashville's Centers over Monahan.
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06-30-2019, 08:06 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
I don't know that i would take any of Nashville's Centers over Monahan.
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That is your opinion and I respect that.
All I am saying is that Duchene, Johansen, and Monahan are comparable. Monahan is not on another level so if the two of them are second line, then so is Monahan.
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06-30-2019, 08:06 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Well, if you are saying Duchene and Johansen are second line centers, that is still better than the Flames.
By this logic, the Flames have one 2nd line center (Monahan) and 2 3rd line centers (Backlund and Ryan).
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Bingo
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06-30-2019, 08:07 PM
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#28
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
Didn't he have that contract when the trade went down and wasn't he good back then? I thought he was more of a "fall off" than a bad deal. Could be wrong, though.
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Traded for then signed with Nashville. And isn't a fall off what makes some deals bad? 
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06-30-2019, 08:10 PM
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#29
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Rando
Traded for then signed with Nashville. And isn't a fall off what makes some deals bad? |
Ah yes, that's what I was misremembering. I thought he signed in Ottawa, played really well then traded to Nashville.
And yeah, that is what makes a deal bad, haha. I just thought he was more of a random fall off than a "you should have known" fall off. But yeah, that info changes my opinion a bit, for sure.
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06-30-2019, 08:28 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Well, if you are saying Duchene and Johansen are second line centers, that is still better than the Flames.
By this logic, the Flames have one 2nd line center (Monahan) and 2 3rd line centers (Backlund and Ryan).
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According to advanced stats he’s more comparable to Kevin Hayes than an elite 1st line center.
https://theathletic.com/1033210/2019...-agency-class/
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Duchene has always been held in high regard as one of the league’s better players, but his results have lagged behind his reputation. Last year was a high mark for his production, but it came off a bloated 18 percent shooting percentage that Duchene is unlikely to repeat.
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06-30-2019, 09:42 PM
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#31
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I was expecting more. It's still not great for a guy who is realistically a 2nd line center, but it isn't awful.
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06-30-2019, 09:50 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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The guys best seasons were 70 point seasons 5 years apart, basically he's a soft and could give a damn 60 point player getting 8 zillion a year. who ever thinks this is a good deal just wait and see the outcome. this will be swift!
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06-30-2019, 09:50 PM
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#33
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Preds fans calling this a steal. It may be reasonable, but certainly not a steal.
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06-30-2019, 10:03 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Because they needed more center depth...
#### Nashville.
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06-30-2019, 11:49 PM
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#35
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He just isn't a guy I want to build my team around, or spend $8M on. Nashville can have him for that price.
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07-01-2019, 09:56 AM
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#36
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I think that is a great price for Duchene.
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07-01-2019, 10:33 AM
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#37
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Duchene contract with Preds includes $28 million in signing bonus money. Year by year total: $10 mil, $8 mil, $10mil, $8mil, $9 mil, $6 mil, $5 mil.
Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
Duchene has a 7-team No-trade clause the last three seasons of the contract
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07-01-2019, 10:36 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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I am not a fan of Duchene. Still, this will work out early on for the preds, he will slot nicely in their top 6. I don't think this will age well though. I am not confident that a 35 year old Duchene will be worth 8 mil. Let alone at 33 years old.
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