[Rumour] UPD: Flames sign Cam Talbot (1yr, $2.75mil)

[Reggie Dunlop]

I wouldn't have minded a all-Czech Rittich/Mrazek combo, but a Mrazek contract may prove too rich.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Your analogy of signing a backup goalie is that it's like sticking a knife down your pants and hoping it protects your junk?

Do you read your own posts?

I don’t think they would be signing Talbot as backup. They probably hope that he will start at least half the games. A sub par 1A goalie starting 40 or more games can easily sink a season.

But let’s say he is signed with the intent to be just a backup, I don’t know how good I feel about just handing the keys to Rittich either.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

It’s basically like saying, I can’t afford a cup, but there is a cheap knife for sale. If I stick the knife down my pants at just the right angle, it might protect my junk. It could work, but it is risky and could be a disaster

This post did not deserve to be #### on. Bordering on brilliance IMO.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Brick

Lehner is 27 years old and would fit well on this team for years to come...McElhinney would be okay short term with recent outstanding play and would be coming home...Varlamov would be good in a backup role to David Rittich and is still an average to above average goalie.

Lehner would fit if you’ve found a way to clear some significant cap and there’s no guarantee his current play is sustainable away from the defensive structure of the Islanders. He’s also going to command the #1 spot which immediately slaps Rittich in the face.

Calgary isn’t home for McElhinney other than he was drafted by us and has since played for 6 other teams. At 36, we just put us in another Smith situation. If he plays well, great but you’re no closer to finding a future #1 out of that position when it’s guaranteed you let him go UFA in two years.

If Varlamov wasn’t under the delusion he’s still good enough to be a number #1 he’d stay in Colorado behind Grubauer. Giving him that spot does the same that Lehner does.

The smart move here is a 32 year old Talbot who has the required skill, will come on a short term and low cap hit, be content in a tandem and is motivated to prove himself. It tides us over just long enough to get a better sense of what we have in Rittich, Parsons and Gillies will either boom or bust in the AHL and we can wait out other goalie acquisition options

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don’t think they would be signing Talbot as backup. They probably hope that he will start at least half the games. A sub par 1A goalie starting 40 or more games can easily sink a season.

But let’s say he is signed with the intent to be just a backup, I don’t know how good I feel about just handing the keys to Rittich either.

The most recent Stanley Cup winners have won with goalies playing less-than 50 games. I think it’s a good bet that between the two of them Rittich and Talbot can win their share of games and potentially go on a run in the playoffs.


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[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The most recent Stanley Cup winners have won with goalies playing less-than 50 games. I think it’s a good bet that between the two of them Rittich and Talbot can win their share of games and potentially go on a run in the playoffs.


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I am all for tandems. I have been preaching that for years. Both goalies still need to be good though. I don’t think Talbot is good. You can have good and you can have cheap, but you can’t have both.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I am all for tandems. I have been preaching that for years. Both goalies still need to be good though. I don’t think Talbot is good. You can have good and you can have cheap, but you can’t have both.

That’s nonsense. Of course you can.


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[timbit]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I am all for tandems. I have been preaching that for years. Both goalies still need to be good though. I don’t think Talbot is good. You can have good and you can have cheap, but you can’t have both.

Unless I am misinterpreting, tell that to Binnington.

[sureLoss]

Andy Strickland @andystrickland
Goaltender Cam Talbot to sign 1 yr deal with Calgary #Flames for $2.75 million

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Andy Strickland @andystrickland
Goaltender Cam Talbot to sign 1 yr deal with Calgary #Flames for $2.75 million

I like it. Big fan of this move by Tree.

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Andy Strickland @andystrickland
Goaltender Cam Talbot to sign 1 yr deal with Calgary #Flames for $2.75 million

Is there any way Rittich gets less than 3 million now?

[FireGilbert]

The price seems a bit high but I guess GMs and agents have figured out the Oilers factor. I like the risk.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Is there any way Rittich gets less than 3 million now?

Rittich has 1 year left of RFA status.

Imagine a 2 year deal, one at 2.25M, one at 3.25M. $2.75M AAV.

[Brick]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Lehner would fit if you’ve found a way to clear some significant cap and there’s no guarantee his current play is sustainable away from the defensive structure of the Islanders. He’s also going to command the #1 spot which immediately slaps Rittich in the face.

Calgary isn’t home for McElhinney other than he was drafted by us and has since played for 6 other teams. At 36, we just put us in another Smith situation. If he plays well, great but you’re no closer to finding a future #1 out of that position when it’s guaranteed you let him go UFA in two years.

If Varlamov wasn’t under the delusion he’s still good enough to be a number #1 he’d stay in Colorado behind Grubauer. Giving him that spot does the same that Lehner does.

The smart move here is a 32 year old Talbot who has the required skill, will come on a short term and low cap hit, be content in a tandem and is motivated to prove himself. It tides us over just long enough to get a better sense of what we have in Rittich, Parsons and Gillies will either boom or bust in the AHL and we can wait out other goalie acquisition options

Lehner/Rittich would be my choice and worth the cost. (If Lehner would come to Calgary)
We'll know soon enough how smart a move it is/was to sign Cam Talbot.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Is there any way Rittich gets less than 3 million now?

Was there a chance of that happening in the first place? Rittich coming in under three would've been a surprise IMO. It might give Rittich's camp more fuel over three was always the better bet.

But as an RFA the term will determine the dollars per.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Is there any way Rittich gets less than 3 million now?

Yes.

One way is arbitration. UFA signings cannot be used in arbitration cases.

[keenan87]

The number keeps increasing. Hope it doesn't end up being 3 mil tomorrow.

[oldschoolcalgary]

2.75 seems a bit high imo... we'll see what it turns out being...but Talbot didn't exactly look stellar last year.

Like the player, just think the number is a a bit high for a backup, or 1B goalie if he rebounds from last year.

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Yes.

One way is arbitration. UFA signings cannot be used in arbitration cases.

What’s your best guess?

I don’t know much about the arbitration process. I imagine both sides present arguments to a panel and the decision is binding...but I don’t know what comparables are included or excluded.

I fear the result is north of 3.5 million, and I fear that because he earned it IMHO

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by Rando

Was there a chance of that happening in the first place? Rittich coming in under three would've been a surprise IMO. It might give Rittich's camp more fuel over three was always the better bet.

But as an RFA the term will determine the dollars per.

I didn’t think there was (other folks have stated different views)...but now that 2.75 has been committed to the 1B, there is a lot of riding on Rittich AAV. If it’s 3,25 per year, then the cap gets that much tighter.