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				Flames rookie/development camp — July 3-7. UPD: rosters/schedule announced
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
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Wednesday, July 3 
 
8am-2:30pm - Testing (all players) 
 
Thursday, July 4 
 
9-10:15am - Group A on-ice evaluations (10:15-11:15am off-ice workout) 
10:30-11:45am - Group B on-ice evaluations (9-10:00am off-ice workout) 
 
Friday, July 5 
 
9-10:15am - Group A skill development (10:30-11:45 off-ice workout) 
10:30-11:45am - Group B skill development (9-10am off-ice workout) 
 
Saturday, July 6 
 
9-10:15am - Group B skill development (10:30-11:30am off-ice workout) 
10:30-11:45am - Group A skill development (9-10am off-ice workout) 
 
Sunday, July 7 
 
9-10:30am controlled scrimmage (all players)
			
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				In addition to the 25 players that are the property of the Calgary Flames, Calgary has invited 14 players to attend the Development Camp on try-out agreements (Tristan Crozier, Ben Freeman, Andrew Fyten, Zach Giuttari, Ronnie Hein, Johannes Kinnvall, David Kope, James Malm, Christopher Merisier-Ortiz, Tommy Miller, Montana Onyebuchi, Chris Rifalk, Jerad Rosburg, Jackson van de Leest). 
 
 
PLAYERS ATTENDING: 
 
(* limited participant) 
 
Group A: 
 
60 - Lucas Feuk - LW 
79 - Ben Freeman - C 
59 - Andrew Fyten - C 
80 - Glenn Gawdin - C 
94 - Zach Giuttari - RD 
57 - Robert Hamilton - LD 
73 - David Kope - RW 
83 - Demetrios Koumontzis - LW 
74 - James Malm - LW 
96 - Tommy Miller - RD 
43 - Andrew Nielsen - LD 
84 - Josh Nodler - RW 
64 - Emilio Pettersen - LW 
76 - Martin Pospisil - C 
65 - Milos Roman - C 
92 - Jerad Rosburg - LD 
54 - Corey Schueneman - LD 
 
82 - Tyler Parsons - G 
40 - Dustin Wolf - G 
 
Group B: 
 
61 - Tristan Crozier - RW 
90 - Ronnie Hein - C 
95 - Johannes Kinnvall - LD 
46 - Carl Johan Lerby - RD 
81 - Linus Lindstrom - C 
91 - Mitchell Mattson - C 
85 - Chris Merisier-Ortiz - LD 
86 - Mason Morelli - LW 
97 - Montana Onyebuchi - RD 
49 - Jakob Pelletier - LW 
47 - Matthew Phillips - RW 
39 - Luke Philp - C 
63 - Adam Ruzicka - C 
62 - Filip Sveningsson - LW 
98 - Jackson ven de Leest - LD 
45 - Alexander Yelesin - RD 
*78 - Dmitry Zavgorodniy - RW 
 
72 - Christoffer Rifalk - G 
70 - Nick Schneider - G 
50 - Artyom Zagidulin - G 
  
 
Four of the five Flames 2019 NHL Draft picks will be in attendance with the exception of Ilya Nikolaev who has prior commitments with his current club, Loko Yaroslavl in Russia.
			
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Winsport's website lists July 4-7 as "tentatively booked" in Joan Snyder Arena. That lines up with previous years, with July 3 (as confirmed by the Athletic) likely serving as an off-ice day. Development camps have occured in the first week of July since the second year of Treliving's managerial tenure with the Flames.
 
The CBA says this about dev. camps:
 
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				Participation in Conditioning Camps will be limited to the following: 
(i) Unsigned Draft Choices; 
(ii) Any Player in the Entry Level System with less than 120 NHL Games 
played (but who did not play in excess of 70 NHL Games in the preceding 
Regular Season); 
(iii) Draft-related Unrestricted Free Agents; 
(iv) Players who were eligible for selection in the preceding Entry Draft but 
were undrafted; and 
(v) Any Player who is not in the Entry Level System, who finished the 
preceding season disabled, and who submits a written request to the Club, 
with a copy to the NHL and the NHLPA, to participate in his Club's 
Conditioning Camp.
			
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Players cannot be required to attend more than three of these camps but are able to opt into further camps. Mark Jankowski notably attended five.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-25-2019, 07:50 PM
			
			
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			Camp starts on July 3, but that's likely off-ice, which is why they don't have the ice booked. 
There's a thread in the Back Burner forum on the camp invites who are known so far:  https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=174576
It makes sense for there to be a thread in the main forum too.
 
Four players from Michigan State...
  
Mattson and Nodler are draft picks. Miller and Rosburg are invites.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-25-2019, 07:53 PM
			
			
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			Out of thanks, but thanks getbak, I'll comb through that thread and add stuff to the OP.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-25-2019, 08:27 PM
			
			
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			Any chance Valimaki attends? He has only attended two as far as I remember.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			06-25-2019, 08:28 PM
			
			
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				Any chance Valimaki attends? He has only attended two as far as I remember. 
			
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Oh yes, he can be required to attend. He has not met the games played threshold to warrant exclusion.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-25-2019, 08:36 PM
			
			
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			I have a rare moment between ending one job and starting another this week - so I might actually be able to go watch on the 4th and/or 5th!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-25-2019, 10:34 PM
			
			
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			Petterson will be interesting. Would like.to see how Mattsons coming along.  
 
Nikolaiev is going to be there?????  That'd be a pretty big thing since he should be back to Russia for his team soon.  He y if makes it I want some detailed reporting on that one. Pretty pumped he is a Flame.  
 
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			06-25-2019, 11:35 PM
			
			
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			Looks like David Kope from the oil kings has been invited as well. Don’t now how to embed twitter but here’s a link.  
https://twitter.com/tps_guy/status/1...746279424?s=21
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-25-2019, 11:41 PM
			
			
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			With all the excitement of adding new prospects at the draft last weekend I'd almost forgot about some of our other intruiging prospects. Looking forward to seeing guys like Pospisil, Petterson and Zavgorodny up close for the first time since last year, still lots of potential there.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2019, 12:17 AM
			
			
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			Kid from the Blazers is pretty tough by today's WHL standards but needs to learn to manage the emotions a bit more.  That said I like seeing the Flames bring in potential tough guys at low acquisition cost like this instead of spending high picks on them like they did with Kanzig and Hunter Smith, if he continues to improve could be worthwhile. 
 
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			06-26-2019, 12:26 AM
			
			
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			How many has Dube been at.  Won't he attend this one?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2019, 12:26 AM
			
			
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It seems like he is the type of guy who would have been drafted if it were 2008 or so.
 
Very tall, with some offensive skill. 
165 lbs for 6'5 is very light though wow.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2019, 12:29 AM
			
			
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				How many has Dube been at.  Won't he attend this one? 
			
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He's been to three. 2016, 2017, and 2018. It's possible that he attends this one as well, depending on where the Flames' brass sees him.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-26-2019, 12:59 AM
			
			
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6'5" and 165 lbs  - send a care package
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2019, 02:31 AM
			
			
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			06-26-2019, 02:33 AM
			
			
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			06-26-2019, 05:55 AM
			
			
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				Kid from the Blazers is pretty tough by today's WHL standards but needs to learn to manage the emotions a bit more.  That said I like seeing the Flames bring in potential tough guys at low acquisition cost like this instead of spending high picks on them like they did with Kanzig and Hunter Smith, if he continues to improve could be worthwhile. 
 
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That's not really why Kanzig and Smith got drafted, however.  They were looked at as really big and tough prospects that were smart and had fairly good ceilings.  Todd Button in particular raved about how mature Kanzig was, how he was such a great leader and how he was so cerebral.  Smith was a guy who's production was spiking and they really liked his potential as a big guy with skill.
 
It is just unfortunate that they didn't pan out, but a lot of other smaller skilled players didn't either.  They weren't drafted as goons, but rather as potential high impact players to help the team down the road play some tough but skilled hockey.  Not much difference in having defencemen Kanzig not pan out vs Wotherspoon not pan out, right?  I actually found what Button was saying about Kanzig really interesting - he seemed to really like him as a prospect, and so did the rest of the scouts (they all saw him live, as they all took the ferry from their meeting in Vancouver to see him in Victoria).
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2019, 07:32 AM
			
			
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6-5, 165pds LOL. Holy needle in a haystack.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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