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Old 06-21-2019, 08:56 PM   #701
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Man, hope the Flames can pick up a 2nd rounder or two the way this is going. Great picks still available early tomorrow
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:56 PM   #702
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I'm just glad that it seems this team has moved on from drafting low ceiling players (Leason) with 1st round picks.
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Bit of a reach for Tampa but still have to be happy with that if you're a Bolts fan.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:56 PM   #704
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Lightning draft Nolan Foote. They drafted Cal Foot in 2017
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Would have preferred Lavoie. Amazed he fell this far.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:57 PM   #706
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If the teams immediately after you don't take the player that you left on the board, chances are you did the right thing.

So far Tampa has taken Foote and passed on Lavoie, Suzuki, and Kaliev.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:57 PM   #707
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With the way guys I really like are falling, lets get trading and get some picks early in the 2nd round here
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:57 PM   #708
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Tampa with 2 feet now.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:57 PM   #709
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A Mangipange type player. Also a LW. Also not overly fast. For a team that needs to get bigger and faster, this IS a confusing pick.
The Flames need to get more intense.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:57 PM   #710
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You have to think that the 32nd pick tomorrow will be traded away, cause there are still some good steals up there.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:58 PM   #711
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The Flames need to get more intense.
Agreed. They didn't lose in the palyoffs because of lack of speed, they lost because of a lack of intensity. That's why I like this pick
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This has been a very weird 1st round. I want to see the Flames trade for an early 2nd given the players available. It’s crazy.
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Old 06-21-2019, 09:00 PM   #713
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I'm just glad that it seems this team has moved on from drafting low ceiling players (Leason) with 1st round picks.
I'm just glad they didn't pick a goalie.
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Old 06-21-2019, 09:00 PM   #714
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Msybe dubas gets canes 1st.
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Kaliyev and Lavoie had serious questions about their effort levels. Suzuki is skilled but is a perimeter player who rarely gets into the guts of the game. Not a fan of Suzuki so really glad we didn't take him.

With Kaliyev and Lavoie, I am guessing Treliving and Button would know the kids better and the fact that they are falling, tells me that they didn't interview well and teams are afraid of the lack of effort level.

The playoffs showed that you need high end compete and high end skill I think Pelletier has both of those. I liked Hoglander a little better, but I think they are very close.
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Arthur Kaliyev LW
Ranked #13 by THE ATHLETIC
Ranked #34 by HOCKEYPROSPECT.COM
Ranked #30 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS
Ranked #23 by ISS HOCKEY
Ranked #21 by MCKEEN'S HOCKEY
Ranked #7 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters)
Ranked #13 by ELITEPROSPECTS.COM
Ranked #21 by TSN/McKenzie

Raphaël Lavoie C/RW
Ranked #21 by THE ATHLETIC
Ranked #25 by HOCKEYPROSPECT.COM
Ranked #25 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS
Ranked #15 by ISS HOCKEY
Ranked #14 by MCKEEN'S HOCKEY
Ranked #20 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters)
Ranked #21 by ELITEPROSPECTS.COM
Ranked #19 by TSN/McKenzie

I wonder what the dirt is on these guys?
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Old 06-21-2019, 09:01 PM   #717
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Lightning draft Nolan Foote. They drafted Cal Foot in 2017
Just keep putting one Foote after the other.
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I too hope Flames trade for an early 2nd.
Lots of good kids still there
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Kaliyev and Lavoie had serious questions about their effort levels. Suzuki is skilled but is a perimeter player who rarely gets into the guts of the game. Not a fan of Suzuki so really glad we didn't take him.

With Kaliyev and Lavoie, I am guessing Treliving and Button would know the kids better and the fact that they are falling, tells me that they didn't interview well and teams are afraid of the lack of effort level.

The playoffs showed that you need high end compete and high end skill I think Pelletier has both of those. I liked Hoglander a little better, but I think they are very close.
When you're drafting late in the first, you're not getting a stud. I would always gamble on a guy who lacks "high end compete" and can still score 50 goals against his peers...hoping you can get his head screwed on right. True, boom or bust...but if a guy like Kaliev had "high end compete", he'd be a top 5 pick!
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Arthur Kaliyev LW
Ranked #13 by THE ATHLETIC
Ranked #34 by HOCKEYPROSPECT.COM
Ranked #30 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS
Ranked #23 by ISS HOCKEY
Ranked #21 by MCKEEN'S HOCKEY
Ranked #7 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters)
Ranked #13 by ELITEPROSPECTS.COM
Ranked #21 by TSN/McKenzie

Raphaël Lavoie C/RW
Ranked #21 by THE ATHLETIC
Ranked #25 by HOCKEYPROSPECT.COM
Ranked #25 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS
Ranked #15 by ISS HOCKEY
Ranked #14 by MCKEEN'S HOCKEY
Ranked #20 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters)
Ranked #21 by ELITEPROSPECTS.COM
Ranked #19 by TSN/McKenzie

I wonder what the dirt is on these guys?
Lavoie I don't know but Kaliyev had red flags re. effort and then completely bombed at the combine.
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