[News] Ryan Callahan has degenerative back disease and put on LTIR

[PepsiFree]

You guys are both overblowing the significance of them using the medical term and somehow underselling the symptoms of the condition.

Yeah, his back hurts, due to symptoms of degenerative disc disease. Everyone’s back deteriorates. Not everyone has to retire at 34 because of adverse symptoms of the deterioration.

Just like not everyone needs surgery to replace a disc because of DDD symptoms, but some do.

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Yes, every 34 year-old is walking around with it - it's called aging.

Then why aren’t the stats 100% of people in their 30s showing signs degenerative disc disease instead of 30-50%? Why does it affect some people enough to completely disrupt their daily lives and others don’t even notice it?

Casually brushing it off as “everyone has it” isn’t just wrong, it completely ignores the variety of symptoms and severity.

[SportsJunky]

Didn’t he just participate in the playoffs last month?

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Casually brushing it off as “everyone has it” isn’t just wrong, it completely ignores the variety of symptoms and severity.

Well it sure seems like everyone whose team is in cap trouble has it, or something like it. I get defending it after a couple times, but after it happens about a dozen perfectly convenient times in a row...

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Redrum

Well it sure seems like everyone whose team is in cap trouble has it, or something like it. I get defending it after a couple times, but after it happens about a dozen perfectly convenient times in a row...

Except it happens to a bunch of players where there’s no “convenient” circumstance, so nobody bothers connecting them together.

Clayton Stoner and Joffrey Lupul immediately come to mind. Players who are out, for some reason or some severity, but certainly aren’t in some debilitating state, are they?

It’s worth noting that it’s the NHL that decides who is valid to go on LTIR. If a player can play, they play. What reason does the NHL have to bail teams out?

[Shazam]

Maybe they meant HHH suplexed him?

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Except it happens to a bunch of players where there’s no “convenient” circumstance, so nobody bothers connecting them together.

Clayton Stoner and Joffrey Lupul immediately come to mind. Players who are out, for some reason or some severity, but certainly aren’t in some debilitating state, are they?

It’s worth noting that it’s the NHL that decides who is valid to go on LTIR. If a player can play, they play. What reason does the NHL have to bail teams out?

Well there you go, it's okay to defend the odd one. Even though they both fit easily into that convenient category. Lupul was useless with a ridiculous contract and Stoner was an obvious buyout candidate.

I'm not saying those two, or anyone in particular is a big fat cheater, but some of them certainly are.

[Erick Estrada]

As mentioned on HF the correct term for Callahan's issue is Degenerative Cap Disorder. I'm still waiting for a player that's still playing well up to his contract value to have to quit playing due to one of these weird disorders. Seems to only happen to players teams are trying to rid themselves of or the Hossa situation where he didn't want to play for the last years of his deal that didn't pay him much. I guess it's too bad for the Leafs that Marleau still wants to play.

[Resolute 14]

While not exactly playing up to his contract value, Cody Hodgson fits the rest of your criteria.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

As mentioned on HF the correct term for Callahan's issue is Degenerative Cap Disorder. I'm still waiting for a player that's still playing well up to his contract value to have to quit playing due to one of these weird disorders. Seems to only happen to players teams are trying to rid themselves of or the Hossa situation where he didn't want to play for the last years of his deal that didn't pay him much. I guess it's too bad for the Leafs that Marleau still wants to play.

You don’t think Callahan would have gotten a NHL contract after this year?

Why would he give up his career to help TB cap situation ?

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by LGA

So...he has a back and is older than a toddler? DDD (or degenerative disc/back disease) is basically a nothing diagnosis. It just means that there are degenerative changes observed under diagnostic imaging which, surprise, every poster on here probably has.

I got that same diagnosis last fall. On a scale of 1-10, my back pain tops out at 2 a few days a month. Otherwise, I have no issues at all.

[badradio]

Originally Posted by burnitdown

That’s too bad for him - great career with the Rangers. Isn’t that what Lucic has too?

Lucic has Scheuermann's Disease which is also degenerative. It's a radical curve of the thoracic spine. I suffer from the same thing, unfortunately. I can't stand very long without pain, but some people are lucky enough to have no pain, so it varies, but I'm finding with age that it's affecting my hips and lower back as well. Anyways, it sucks and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, even an Oiler.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by badradio

Lucic has Scheuermann's Disease which is also degenerative. It's a radical curve of the thoracic spine. I suffer from the same thing, unfortunately. I can't stand very long without pain, but some people are lucky enough to have no pain, so it varies, but I'm finding with age that it's affecting my hips and lower back as well. Anyways, it sucks and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, even an Oiler.

Looking at Callahan he's missed a ton of games over the past few years. If its due in part to his back issue it makes sense.


Lucic hasn't missed any games due to his back issue, and its super apparent that the Oilers are having cap problems, I would assume that the NHL would take a really hard look at the Oilers if Lucic suddenly retired due to his condition. Also the Oilers didn't have any fear when they signed him to that contract and cleared him at the start of every season.

[badradio]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Looking at Callahan he's missed a ton of games over the past few years. If its due in part to his back issue it makes sense.


Lucic hasn't missed any games due to his back issue, and its super apparent that the Oilers are having cap problems, I would assume that the NHL would take a really hard look at the Oilers if Lucic suddenly retired due to his condition. Also the Oilers didn't have any fear when they signed him to that contract and cleared him at the start of every season.

I was just clarifying what Lucic has. I'm not sure what you're going on about.