I mean they kinda did in episode 2. Lure the NK to where Bran is. Past that, there's not a whole lot you can talk about when you don't really understand the enemy.
Episode 2 spent a tonne of time on the emotional bonds of characters with each other and with the audience, but it gave very little time to discussions of battle strategy. I'm sure with all of those leaders there the discussions of military strategy could have been portrayed in much more depth and touched upon their backgrounds and the politics between them, which could have been interesting. Just a choice they made to focus on the emotional bonds and the sense of everyone being United as the living against the dead.
Episode 2 was great anyways, I just would have enjoyed seeing more military planning portrayed.
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Was there this much blowback to the season 7 writing gaffes?
There was, but it was spread out over the season and wasn't as concentrated as this. With the launch of SE 8, and especially the built-up-for-eight-seasons Ep 3, there's been unprecedented social media focus on GoT. So everyone frustrated with how the series has changed in the last couple seasons has been venting all at once this week. Some wags have noted that the Battle of Winterfell was less deadly for major characters than the Battle of Hogwarts. Ouch.
It's really about re-calibrating your expectations of what kind of show GoT is. Imagine if the Wire gradually turned into Die Hard. I mean, Die Hard is cool. But it's not the Wire.
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There was, but it was spread out over the season and wasn't as concentrated as this. With the launch of SE 8, and especially the built-up-for-eight-seasons Ep 3, there's been unprecedented social media focus on GoT. So everyone frustrated with how the series has changed in the last couple seasons has been venting all at once this week. Some wags have noted that the Battle of Winterfell was less deadly for major characters than the Battle of Hogwarts. Ouch.
It's really about re-calibrating your expectations of what kind of show GoT is. Imagine if the Wire gradually turned into Die Hard. I mean, Die Hard is cool. But it's not the Wire.
Season 5 of The Wire got criticism too for self-indulgence and a pretty out there plot line with the fake serial killer.
That's when I started to lose faith with the TV show writers, and that was even before they ran out of book material to reference. The sand snakes were one of the strongest parts of an otherwise weaker book, but the show absolutely crapped all over them
Then you have Oberyn Martell who was better in the show in every which way.
I can’t think of the last time people were so split on a single episode of a TV show. A lot of people on my Twitter loved it and others thought it was bad. I personally thought it was fine. But then again, I’m not as hugely invested in GOT as a lot of people are.
Just watched again on one of my other displays which is considerably darker than my principal screen. I get the complaints but wow the cinematography was amazing. In some respects the darker imagery was more compelling.
I was (still am) critical of the writing for Ep03 but hard to think of 80 minutes of television that comes anywhere close to the spectacle that was the Long Night.
Btw Benioff and Weiss are on Kimmel tonight and Sixty Minutes did a story on GOT a couple weeks ago.
I thought the drama, emotion, and visuals were done very well. Those overhead shots and cuts to other scenes were unreal. And of course the Dothraki flame sequence.
The terrible strategy and darkness definitely detracted, but it's not the first time they've had terrible strategy in GOT.
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I mentioned this earlier, but there's a reason that Genghis Khan was able to conquer the world with relative ease. Melee forces are pretty useless against mounted units. Especially undead ones that can't hold pikes properly. Houses at full charge generate a huge amount of power. An army of thousands of mounted Dothraki would have decimated the whights.
The power generated by the horses doesn't matter to the wights. Getting hit and trampled by a horse will knock them down, but they'll get back up, meaning that any penetration through the ranks will just leave you surrounded when your momentum runs out after running into enough undead meat bags. Not a good position to be in for a mounted unit with a short sword.
Ghengis Khan and steppe armies didn't tend to charge head on against unknown numbers and formations, particularly ones that won't get rattled and shaken up by charging cavalry. Khan and Mongol tactics were about breaking formations, encirclement, harassment, feigned flight, and the use of ranged weapons on horseback better than any other army.
my favorite unit in Age of Empires 2 was the Byzantine Cataphract with the bonus trample damage. you guys have totally ruined my understanding of mounted unit tactics, thanks.
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Most of my gripes and anger from the last episode in one video. I found it cathartic, but I absolutely would not watch it if you enjoyed the episode or are sick of me and others griping. Seriously, don't watch it.
Spoiler!
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Most of my gripes and anger from the last episode in one video. I found it cathartic, but I absolutely would not watch it if you enjoyed the episode or are sick of me and others griping. Seriously, don't watch it.
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I have gripes with the episode, but after last season this was kind of what I expected, so I wasn't disappointed.
However, this comment kind of personifies my confusion with the series:
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Season 1: winter is coming
Season 2: winter is coming
Season 3: winter is coming
Season 4: winter is coming
Season 5: winter is coming
Season 6: winter is coming
Season 7: winter is coming
Season 8 episode 1: winter is coming
Season 8 episode 2: winter is here
Season 8 episode 3: winter is over
We got to see the Night King's wrath for one whole episode after such a buildup. The very first episode of the series is literally titled "Winter is Coming".
