New Apple iPhone - Pretty amazing!

[Kipper is King]

I don't want a cellphone. I want a nice widescreen 6G ipod to listen to music and watch movies on. The iphone is a sweet peice of technology, but it's not what I'm looking for. Does anyone agree with me?

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Kipper is King

I don't want a cellphone. I want a nice widescreen 6G ipod to listen to music and watch movies on. The iphone is a sweet peice of technology, but it's not what I'm looking for. Does anyone agree with me?

They will probably release a high capacity ipod with the same touch screen technology as well. Who knows when though. They seem to put new ipods out every year.

[browna]

Honestly, if it had a better task manager and PIM/Calender type program that would sync (ideally with Outlook, but) with some sort of standard calender (hell, even online yahoo calender if it wirelessly synced), it would seriously make me consider swtiching back to GSM.

Previous to today, wouldn't have considered that for the moon, thanks to expereinces with Rogers (and a lesser degree, pre-Rogers Fido).

Not sure why it doesn't...the soft touch "keyboard" seems like a perfect fit for more "business" style applications, especially since they compare it to the Q/Treo/BB in the presentation.

[Flames0910]

from what i understand it does, it will synch with ical and so will your contacts

Originally Posted by browna

Honestly, if it had a better task manager and PIM/Calender type program that would sync (ideally with Outlook, but) with some sort of standard calender (hell, even online yahoo calender if it wirelessly synced), it would seriously make me consider swtiching back to GSM.

Previous to today, wouldn't have considered that for the moon, thanks to expereinces with Rogers (and a lesser degree, pre-Rogers Fido).

Not sure why it doesn't...the soft touch "keyboard" seems like a perfect fit for more "business" style applications, especially since they compare it to the Q/Treo/BB in the presentation.

[browna]

Originally Posted by TanguayFan

from what i understand it does, it will synch with ical and so will your contacts

I assume Ical is useless to me if all my computers are MS operating systems.

[edn88]

The phone is fantastic - better than almost all of the consumer oriented gear out there now, but I have doubts that it will be the market leader any time soon.

Especially if it doesn't have Outlook compatibility. There is a 101 reasons why Blackberry will retain the corporate market, including the Blackberry Enterprise Server and ability to enforce policies.

BTW - did anyone else notice that it is now Apple Inc, instead of Apple Computers Inc.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

This phone looks like it is geared more towards kids. On the link I didn't see anything about it being able to create or edit spreadsheets or documents. What kind of task manager does it have? The MP3 player is good, surfing the net is good, but it needs to have more functions than that. Unless it is just for entertainment purposes. Am I missing the work side of this phone?

Apple Inc. is in the CONSUMER electronics business. Out of the over 800 million cell phones sold last year, what percentage of people have the need to edit a spreadheet on theirs? Will you be able to edit these documents? Highly likely. Not really the point of the device though. A one percent market share represents 8 million units sold for Apple.

If corporate image is important to some, they can stick with their crackberrys. Just stop staring over my shoulder at my screen while im watching Scrubs on the train.

[MagicallyAdept]

My 1.5 year old phone has an mp3 player with 1gb memory, internet and a 2mp camera. so all this doens't seem that great but then again i haven't looked into it just yet. Europe has always been way ahead with mobile phones though. Text messaging was huge here in '96 when everyone had nokia 5500's. i bet it will sell well though, just look at the ipod for instance.

EDIT: just had a quick look on the apple site and it does look pretty slick. not sure how popular touch screen texting will be especially if you have to use the stick to touch, i think people will prefer to use fingers, otherwise it just becomes a pda like a blackberry, plus the touchscreen has already been done, the LG chocolate for example. it doesn't look like a phone though does it, a lot of people really like that clamshell design especially in Asia. I think this is more aimed at the pda market and not regular phone users.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by Red Mile Style

I'ld say a good comparision is that palm treo phone, my friend has had one for over a year now and I would say it's the exact same plus with a camera. But, here's the catch, no Apple hype and a fraction of the cost.

http://www.palm.com/us/products/smartphones/treo650/

You mean the Treo with the whopping 32 mb of memory versus the iPhones 8 GIGABYTES of memory?

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Barnes

Apple Inc. is in the CONSUMER electronics business. Out of the over 800 million cell phones sold last year, what percentage of people have the need to edit a spreadheet on theirs? Will you be able to edit these documents? Highly likely. Not really the point of the device though. A one percent market share represents 8 million units sold for Apple.

If corporate image is important to some, they can stick with their crackberrys. Just stop staring over my shoulder at my screen while im watching Scrubs on the train.

This isn't being marketed as a cell phone. From everything I have seen, it is being marketed as a smart phone. All the comsumer stuff is great. But having a task manager or contact list that sync's with Outlook is a must as well. If if has all this memory and processing speed. It should be a cinch to have some sort of task manager and document manager.

Don't worry about me looking over your shoulder on the train. I woudn't be caught dead on that thing.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by photon

Plus in the other markets where the iPod has a big share of the market (Europe and Japan) GSM is the way to go.

Wait what? Photon got confused on an issue of technology?

Japan is CDMA only. Not a single GSM phone in the whole country.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Here is an interesting critique of the iphone, the biggest problems seem to be that it is not compatable with some global standards and it has an unlockable SIM card...meaning if you want to use the iPhone overseas you may be ****ed (Probably not a large number of people have this issue)...it is also currently locked into one carrier (a bigger issue)...and the battery can't be swapped out by the user (that really hurt the iPOD )

[photon]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Wait what? Photon got confused on an issue of technology?

Japan is CDMA only. Not a single GSM phone in the whole country.

Hm, for some reason I thought DoCoMo was GSM! Yeah they're CDMA I guess (d'oh).

Maybe Apple is working on CDMA versions for carriers there? That's the downside of CDMA, you can't just make a phone and pop in the SIM and have it work.

It'd be interesting to hear Apple say why they chose GSM.

EDIT: Interesting article, and answers some of those questions, thanks Fozzie!

[octothorp]

It looks as though the apps on there are based on the same interface as the widgets on OSX. If so, a pretty good developer community should spring up for these devices and fill in all of the necessary business apps. I don't own a cell-phone and this won't make me change my mind, but it's pretty cool, regardless.

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by Red Mile Style

I hate to be a Debbie Downer here, but I completely agree.

Everything mentioned is already available on most cell phones as it is, plus some. Cells already play mp3s, access the internet (hello... blackberry?), get tv shows, have touch-screens etc.

I think this is a classic case of Apple hype.

I love my iPod, don't get me wrong, but for the amount of money I spent, I could've gotten a much better mp3 player with better software (I hate iTunes, absolutely hate it). So, I feel as though I bought into an over-hyped product.

While I like my nano, I partially agree with what you say.

The problem is the touch screen. If it works as good as they say then it is revolutionary - nothing else about it is revolutionary though.

MYK

[Bobblehead]

RIM shares fell 6% with the release of the iPhone.

If the Blackberry really is a better corporate solution then maybe it is a good time to purchase a bit of RIM stock.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

RIM shares fell 6% with the release of the iPhone.

If the Blackberry really is a better corporate solution then maybe it is a good time to purchase a bit of RIM stock.

RIMM stock back up 4% today so far.
Idiot investors dumping stock yesterday, really. I can see Apple shares go up sure, but the Iphone will not out do what the BB does so effectively as a corporate business tool.

[Hakan]

500 bucks seems pretty damn expensive for a cell phone.

I certainly wont be beating the door down to buy one.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

This isn't being marketed as a cell phone. From everything I have seen, it is being marketed as a smart phone.

You should probably look at the marketing material. Apple makes no mention of a smart phone. It is marketed as a mobile device. Steve Jobs implictly said this product is a "leapfrog" product intended to skip over the smart phone catagory.

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

All the comsumer stuff is great. But having a task manager or contact list that sync's with Outlook is a must as well. If if has all this memory and processing speed. It should be a cinch to have some sort of task manager and document manager.

It will have and do these things. Even the iPod can do it now. With the addition a slimmed down version of OS X and the ability to use Widgets as applications, we will see a lot of 3rd party apps developed for this thing increasing its funcionality.

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

Don't worry about me looking over your shoulder on the train. I woudn't be caught dead on that thing.

Well aren't you too cool for school.

[Flash Walken]

personally, I like my non-flashy, nigh-indestructable phone that doesn't have mp3 ringtones or music on it.

It also didn't cost me a thing.