[CP Story] Reactionary Roster Management

[Harry Lime]

This season started like gangbusters and ended in a whimper, for Monahan. He ended up at par.

Does anyone think that if ROR was in that spot (to pick a random example of someone recently moved), calgary would still be playing?

[Toonage]

^ No, because the entire team collapsed save for 3 players

[Reggie Dunlop]

Time to move on from Smith.

Rittich may or may not be able to carry the load. I'm thinking tandem goaltending scenario. In which case the Flames will be looking to bring one in via trade or as a free agent. Artyom Zagidulin is, at best, number 3 goaltender in the organization.

Rittich is going to want a lot more money, so there's that too.

[genetic_phreek]

Interesting to listen to Brian Burke on Boomer & Warrener talking about team speed. Specifically a lot of talk about Monahan.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

^ No, because the entire team collapsed save for 3 players

Right. I don't think any single player - Stone, Hayes, ROR, etc., would have meant more than maybe one extra PO win. Stone was terrific on a team that played a much better overall game and they still lost (well, there are suspect circumstances, but still).

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well TBF, wasn't there a report of a cracked finger?

ok, I found a quote " Brad Treliving says Sean Monahan had a crack in his thumb "

now I'm curious when it happened and how come he didn't sit.
not like the flames were in danger of missing the playoffs or anything.

saw this, too. "Sean Monahan said he wasn't injured at the end of the season and is considering playing for Canada in the world championship"

feels a bit off, and nobody with the flames seems interested in setting the record straight like they normally would.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

ok, I found a quote " Brad Treliving says Sean Monahan had a crack in his thumb "

now I'm curious when it happened and how come he didn't sit.
not like the flames were in danger of missing the playoffs or anything.

saw this, too. "Sean Monahan said he wasn't injured at the end of the season and is considering playing for Canada in the world championship"

feels a bit off, and nobody with the flames seems interested in setting the record straight like they normally would.

I don't think there was (or is) a risk of making it worse, and playing him was probably felt as superior to having him sit and get stale (though it didn't help).

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

ok, I found a quote " Brad Treliving says Sean Monahan had a crack in his thumb "

now I'm curious when it happened and how come he didn't sit.
not like the flames were in danger of missing the playoffs or anything.

saw this, too. "Sean Monahan said he wasn't injured at the end of the season and is considering playing for Canada in the world championship"

feels a bit off, and nobody with the flames seems interested in setting the record straight like they normally would.

An Oilers fan picking at a Flames scab seems a little troll-like. You've brought up the Monahan thing a couple of times now. Are you really that invested in our team?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

ok, I found a quote " Brad Treliving says Sean Monahan had a crack in his thumb "

now I'm curious when it happened and how come he didn't sit.
not like the flames were in danger of missing the playoffs or anything.

saw this, too. "Sean Monahan said he wasn't injured at the end of the season and is considering playing for Canada in the world championship"

feels a bit off, and nobody with the flames seems interested in setting the record straight like they normally would.

As mentioned above, I believe the discrepancy is as simple as this: Monahan did not think he was as seriously injured as do the Flames coaches and trainers. I suspect that he was not especially forthcoming about the extent of this injury when it occurred. Monahan seems like the guy who is determined to play through things, and to never complain. This is an admirable quality but one that can be problematic for coaches, and create more issues than it resolves.

[Jore]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

This season started like gangbusters and ended in a whimper, for Monahan. He ended up at par.

Does anyone think that if ROR was in that spot (to pick a random example of someone recently moved), calgary would still be playing?

Uh, maybe? If Calgary has a selke caliber 2-way skating workhorse who controls the middle of the ice, is best at face offs in the league, and kills penalties, then at the very least Backlund wouldn’t be exhausted and can outmatch the soderbergs, josts, and Wilsons.

ROR would also open up a ton of space for Gaudreau through his puck possession and playmaking and add another look on offence. And maybe if the flames weren’t cowering in a corner whenever Mackinnon steps on the ice the momentum wouldn’t carry over for the plugs in the Avs lineup.

At the very least we would probably have put up more of a fight

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Time to move on from Smith.

Rittich may or may not be able to carry the load. I'm thinking tandem goaltending scenario. In which case the Flames will be looking to bring one in via trade or as a free agent. Artyom Zagidulin is, at best, number 3 goaltender in the organization.

Rittich is going to want a lot more money, so there's that too.

If what Rittich said about being injured since January is true then I'm even more comfortable with him and a question mark being the goalies for next year. If for some odd reason the Islanders move on from Lehner, go with him. More realistically I like a Rittich/Varlamov tandom

[Spinach]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Just saying that the emergence of Sam Bennett as a force in the playoffs is unlikely to change the thinking of the team when they were tire kicking on Jason Zucker as they were already predicting beast mode Sam from quotes leading into the playoffs.

All that being true, I never understood why they wanted to pursue a LW in the first place. Zucker checks some boxes: fast, gritty, fairly good hands, approximately the right age group. But where does he fit? One of Gaudreau, Bennett, Tkachuk & Bread would have to change teams or positions to accommodate a Zucker.

Besides, going another year without a first or second-rounder would suck. Maybe Minny would be sending a 2nd back to us along with Zucker?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Time to move on from Smith.

Rittich may or may not be able to carry the load. I'm thinking tandem goaltending scenario. In which case the Flames will be looking to bring one in via trade or as a free agent. Artyom Zagidulin is, at best, number 3 goaltender in the organization.

Rittich is going to want a lot more money, so there's that too.

As good a year as Rittich had, he is not in a position to command a massive raise. Based on the nearest comparables—RFA Casey DeSmith and UFA Mikko Koskinen—I think Rittich is re-signed for around $2.5 m, and certainly no more than $3.0 m on a multi-year deal.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Interesting to listen to Brian Burke on Boomer & Warrener talking about team speed. Specifically a lot of talk about Monahan.

Monahan should lose 15 lbs this summer. He's the least physical player in the entire sport, he doesn't need to be 205. Be 190 and soft, but be quick.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Interesting to listen to Brian Burke on Boomer & Warrener talking about team speed. Specifically a lot of talk about Monahan.

Monahan should lose 15 lbs this summer. He's the least physical player in the entire sport, he doesn't need to be 205. Be 190 and soft, but be quick.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

As good a year as Rittich had, he is not in a position to command a massive raise. Based on the nearest comparables—RFA Casey DeSmith and UFA Mikko Koskinen—I think Rittich is re-signed for around $2.5 m, and certainly no more than $3.0 m on a multi-year deal.

$2.5 million - $3 million is a lot more.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Spinach

All that being true, I never understood why they wanted to pursue a LW in the first place. Zucker checks some boxes: fast, gritty, fairly good hands, approximately the right age group. But where does he fit? One of Gaudreau, Bennett, Tkachuk & Bread would have to change teams or positions to accommodate a Zucker.

Besides, going another year without a first or second-rounder would suck. Maybe Minny would be sending a 2nd back to us along with Zucker?

Zucker plays a bit of RW as well I believe, kinda like Frolik

[Major Major]

I would love to shake gallagher loose from MTL. He's a right shot, scores goals and has the bull dog mentality. He's on a great contract too and only 26 which seems hard to believe since it feels like he's been around forever.

He's obviously valuable to MTL, but I wonder if they'd bite on a Brodie package. Maybe Brodie, Janko and a pick? This is the type of move I would make without disrupting the core.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Monahan should lose 15 lbs this summer. He's the least physical player in the entire sport, he doesn't need to be 205. Be 190 and soft, but be quick.

He's not slow because if his weight.

Jesus, what is happening in this thread?

He's slow because skating is largely a biomechanical ceiling, he's had two offseason hernia surgeries and probably many other lower body injuries up to this point in his pro career that we will probat never hear about.

He said he was healthy because he will always say that, he doesn't owe fans in media or anyone else information about his body and the boring Monahan moniker exists for a reason. He's just not going to give you anything, especially not excuses. FYI, the team is ALSO going to lie about his condition because again they don't owe anyone anything.

Why was he in the lineup? Because Monahan at 30% is a ####load better than playing Ryan or jankowski the 19 minutes per night that Monahan routinely plays.

This is the same club that played him right through the aforementioned surgeries without appearing to give it much thought. If he can play, he plays.

Haven't you guys been around human beings before?

Give him an off-season where he can walk properly the entire time and he likely improves on his speed by October. He won't be MacKinnon but he probably won't look as bad as he did in the latter part of last season or into this one.

My mind is boggled by the last page of this thread.

[Kybb79]

Monahans injuries are concerning. The man is made of glass imo.