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Old 04-24-2019, 08:34 AM   #181
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After watching that unfold last night, I feel like Vegas should have some sort of legal option to pursue. They were literally robbed of none less than $30M because the refs sh@t the bed. There was simply no excuse for what happened.
I have no dog in this fight and I could barely sleep last night after that horrific call. The game was signed, sealed and deliverd before the refs went postal.
LMAO. Uhh, no. Your argument is the mirror of OOTC's. The officials made a bad call, but it was Vegas that shat the bed. Also, ask the idiot New Orleans Saints fans how their lawsuits went over a blown call in the NFL. Hint: it got thrown out within two weeks.

Also, you could "barely sleep" after that call? Really?
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:36 AM   #182
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Bad call aside, the Knights deserve to lose if they give up 4 goals on a powerplay.

They would have been more effective if they just jammed all 4 guys in front of the net and let San Jose whip the puck at them.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:44 AM   #183
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I know Vegas lost on a bad penalty but...

How is no one talking about Eakin's obvious high stick?

How did Toronto determine that was a good goal? Video review guys are drunk or what?
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I know Vegas lost on a bad penalty but...

How is no one talking about Eakin's obvious high stick?
No one is talking about it because it ultimately didn't influence the outcome of the game. However, it was yet another bad decision by officiating, on a long list of bad decisions this playoffs.

Frankly, fixing the standard of refereeing should be the number one priority for this league, but instead the strategy is to pretend everything is fine.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:47 AM   #185
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Again, it was the right call by the book.

There was a crosscheck and an injury. That's an automatic major. The rule does not specify that the injury has to be caused by the stick.

Sure you can argue something about the spirit of the rule if you like, but people calling it a bogus call are reeaaally stretching their argument.

Sometimes I feel like people just assume every call has to be wrong if they don't immediately get it, and the hyperbole is tiresome honestly. Yes NHL reffing sucks, but that call is not en example of it sucking.

It's also annoying that it's become all people talk about, when it was a great game with a great ending.

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Again, it was the right call by the book.

There was a crosscheck and an injury. That's an automatic major. The rule does not specify that the injury has to be caused by the stick.

Sure you can argue something about the spirit of the rule if you like, but people calling it a bogus call are reeaaally stretching their argument.

Sometimes I feel like people just assume every call has to be wrong if they don't immediately get it, and the hyperbole is tiresome honestly. Yes NHL reffing sucks, but that call is not en example of it sucking.

It's also annoying that it's become all people talk about, when it was a great game with a great ending.
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Another big deadline acquisition doesn't pan out into a long Stanley Cup run but at least they got Stone signed long term as I thought he looked pretty good for the Knights.
That line was on fire and one of the worst penalties of all time away from round 2.
They'd easily be favorites to win the West had they advanced too.

Yes it didnt pan out but only due to the unlikeliest of uncontrollable circumstances.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:56 AM   #189
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No surprise that the head ref for the Vegas/SJ game last night was the infamous and my personal favorite for his love of hate towards the flames:

Mr. Dan O’Halloran

I hope there's some accountability here, Dan needs to be 'retired' after his performance last night.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:58 AM   #190
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LMAO. Uhh, no. Your argument is the mirror of OOTC's. The officials made a bad call, but it was Vegas that shat the bed. Also, ask the idiot New Orleans Saints fans how their lawsuits went over a blown call in the NFL. Hint: it got thrown out within two weeks.

Also, you could "barely sleep" after that call? Really?
The officials didn't make a 'bad call'. They called something they didn't see and didn't happen. That isn't a 'bad call'.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:59 AM   #191
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Another big deadline acquisition doesn't pan out into a long Stanley Cup run but at least they got Stone signed long term as I thought he looked pretty good for the Knights.
It's funny. Stone didn't look good from the deadline to the POs. Then he really turned it on. IMO the real test is whether he turns out to be worth that salary (plus the acquisition cost) over the term.
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After watching that unfold last night, I feel like Vegas should have some sort of legal option to pursue. They were literally robbed of none less than $30M because the refs sh@t the bed. There was simply no excuse for what happened.
How are you calculating damages of $30 M?

I think a home playoff game nets $1-2 M?
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No surprise that the head ref for the Vegas/SJ game last night was the infamous and my personal favorite for his love of hate towards the flames:

Mr. Dan O’Halloran

I hope there's some accountability here, Dan needs to be 'retired' after his performance last night.
fans of many teams hate the guy. he's awful.
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That line was on fire and one of the worst penalties of all time away from round 2.
They'd easily be favorites to win the West had they advanced too.

Yes it didnt pan out but only due to the unlikeliest of uncontrollable circumstances.
trading for a guy who leads the playoffs in goals and points didn't work out, don't you get it?!
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Again, it was the right call by the book.
We all understand your interpretation of the rule. We didn't miss your post. You don't need to re-post it anymore. We are simply ignoring you because we think your interpretation is so obviously nonsensical that it does not require a response.
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How are you calculating damages of $30 M?

I think a home playoff game nets $1-2 M?
Just a rough weighted calculation of potential revenues had they moved on. A home playoff game would easily contribute $5-6M in revenue for the game alone; there would also be merch to consider. Your net number could be correct. I was solely talking revenue.
I also don't think legal action would happen, it just seems like they were completely robbed of a substantial amount of money and branding momentum.
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There was a crosscheck and an injury. That's an automatic major..
No, it isn’t. Where are you getting that from????


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Old 04-24-2019, 09:27 AM   #198
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The officials didn't make a 'bad call'. They called something they didn't see and didn't happen. That isn't a 'bad call'.
That is pretty much the definition of a bad call.
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Again, it was the right call by the book.

There was a crosscheck and an injury. That's an automatic major. The rule does not specify that the injury has to be caused by the stick.

Sure you can argue something about the spirit of the rule if you like, but people calling it a bogus call are reeaaally stretching their argument.

Sometimes I feel like people just assume every call has to be wrong if they don't immediately get it, and the hyperbole is tiresome honestly. Yes NHL reffing sucks, but that call is not en example of it sucking.

It's also annoying that it's become all people talk about, when it was a great game with a great ending.
I totally agree. Crosscheck all you want...sometimes the refs will let it go if it doesn't impact the game too much...sometimes you will get 2 minutes...but in the event that you cross-check a guy and it results in a serious injury no matter how routine the cross-check was and it effects the game (team leading scorer and captain out of the game), then 5 minute major is warranted. I don't see the problem, but i get it that some do.
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There's no way around it, they got the wrong call. Hard to believe all four on ice officials didn't see that it was the ice that did the damage and not the cross check / shove after the draw by Eakins. Though in the heat of the moment I can understand the reasoning (guy is hurt and you're the most hated men in the building for "missing the infraction"), but as professionals in the world's top league there is no excuse not get it right (either by video review, or not letting your emotions make you call something you didn't see).

A terrible PK leads to Vegas nearly blowing the series in regulation. Have to admire their resiliency that they were able to get the tying goal after that. If the hockey gods were just, Vegas gets the OT winner, but they have also had unbelievable luck to have a top ten team in the league as an expansion franchise (thanks to Florida and Columbus' bone head moves) so perhaps this (getting jobbed by the officiating) is their repayment. Now they have their own little "it was in" moment in only their second year. Welcome to the highs and lows of NHL officiating Vegas fans.
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