[OOT] April 23 with two game 7s!

[btimbit]

Ryan Kesler made a career out of mauling and injuring guys in the faceoff dot. I don't recall him getting a penalty for it once, let alone a major

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by timbit

We saw the game a lot differently .

That’s allowed.

IMO , Vegas folded like a cheap tent. Great teams overcome adversity.

Was it a penalty? Was it even worth 2 minutes?

I get the 'kill the penalty', 'overcome adversity', etc stuff............

But this wasn't a legit penalty. It was made up. I would accept all those arguments if it was a legitimate penalty. The refs made the call up.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Was it a penalty? Was it even worth 2 minutes?

I get the 'kill the penalty', 'overcome adversity', etc stuff............

But this wasn't a legit penalty. It was made up. I would accept all those arguments if it was a legitimate penalty. The refs made the call up.

Thing is they didn't even have to kill it off...they could have allowed two goals which isn't even great PKing

Nearly one goal per PP minute

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

https://twitter.com/user/status/1120923934205943810

So, no real explanation, and also a lie - they didn't call the penalty for cross checking. There was no initial call at all. They only called a penalty when it was clear that Pavelski was injured. In other words, they called a penalty for the injury. The cross-check was trivia - they worked backwards.

It's not surprising that NHL officials will simply lie and obfuscate to try to wave away a clear ####-up that caused a series loss. It's typical. But it's still awful.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

And btw Stone with 11 points in the series.

And? He could of had 20 points. He did not lead them to the cup, nevermind the second round.

[btimbit]

Vegas fans getting a rude awakening. To succeed you don't just have to beat the other team, you have to overcome the refs as well.

As much as it sucks to see a team like the Sharks benefit from it, at least Vegas gets to see for the first time what the NHL is really like

[browna]

Originally Posted by timbit

We saw the game a lot differently .

That’s allowed.

IMO , Vegas folded like a cheap tent. Great teams overcome adversity.

After that brutal, almost once in a lifetime, shock to the system, they came back, hit the post once, and then scored to send it to OT. I think they overcame a lot in the last 6 minutes when they had to recompose themselves. A few teams would be quivering in the corner after that turn of events.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by dino7c

When is the last time a team allowed 4 goals on one PP in the playoffs? honestly?

bad call or not its an EPIC choke

Devils gave up 3 goals on one PP in 2012 Final Game 6 to the Kings. Bernier hit Scudeti from behind resulting in a 5 min major.

The DeBoer coached Devils.

[Johnny Makarov]

hahahaha. Gallant just said the refs told him that Eakins crosschecked him in the face!

Ref should be suspended for 82 games next year.

[midniteowl]

Just wondering, why are people allow to blame the refs for the loss in this series and not allow to blame the refs for the loss in the Flames series? Reffing has been terrible so far in this playoff and for one, I'm glad somebody else has to suffer with us Flames fans.

[Jaybo]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

I wonder how many people have left the arena after 3:0 in the third in wanted to kill themselves thereafter.

You always stay to the end.

My wife and I were at a meaningless mid-season game between the Flames and Ducks back in December 2001. The Flames were losing 4-0 with less than five minutes to go.

"Do you want to leave?" she asked.

"Nah, might as well stay to the end. You never know what might happen." I replied, thinking the Flames might get a goal to at least break the shutout or there might be a good fight.

This happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UFyISYVnfw

[zamler]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Vegas fans getting a rude awakening. To succeed you don't just have to beat the other team, you have to overcome the refs as well.

As much as it sucks to see a team like the Sharks benefit from it, at least Vegas gets to see for the first time what the NHL is really like

I don't get this line of thinking. Every team in the league should have a crushing defeat at the hands of the officials so everything is all evened up? What kind of league is that exactly?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Devils gave up 3 goals on one PP in 2012 Final Game 6 to the Kings. Bernier hit Scudeti from behind resulting in a 5 min major.

The DeBoer coached Devils.

So has 4 ever happened? We are talking about a historically bad PK here I think

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Gallant said the refs told him he cross checked him in the face.

As we all knew.............they made the call up. That's bush league.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Just wondering, why are people allow to blame the refs for the loss in this series and not allow to blame the refs for the loss in the Flames series? Reffing has been terrible so far in this playoff and for one, I'm glad somebody else has to suffer with us Flames fans.

I have a hunch that if you read way back in the playoffs years that the refs may always have something to do with it. According to my sources anyway.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by zamler

I don't get this line of thinking. Every team in the league should have a crushing defeat at the hands of the officials so everything is all evened up? What kind of league is that exactly?

Don't know what to tell you, that seems to be the way the league is

[Reggie28]

Can a linesman call a two minute penalty, outside of too many men?

Back when I reffed (mind you it was minor hockey), the linesmen could only call too many men penalties and major penalties. On the Pavelski injury, the referee in the corner did not have his arm up signalling a penalty, I do not know if the back referee initially signaled his intent to call a penalty. The linesman on the blue line nearest the faceoff was the one who realized Pavelski was out cold and waved down the play.
If a linesman cannot call a 2 minute penalty (that’s a big if) and the back referee missed the play (another if), the options would be no penalty or a major penalty for crosschecking (resulting in injury).

[flylock shox]

Only watched the overtime period as it happened so had to go back to watch the 5 minute major and the PP goals.



What a total screw job. Vegas fans and players should be livid. I don't think there was even more than a weak 2 minute penalty there. Can't believe Vegas' coach and bench didn't go nuts on that 5 minute fabrication.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Don't know what to tell you, yet that seems to be the way the league is

Maybe I'm in denial about the reality of the officials in the league.

[browna]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Gallant said the refs told him he cross checked him in the face.

As we all knew.............they made the call up. That's bush league.

The refs didn’t see it, they saw him fall and the face blood. They didn’t fully see it but that’s the conclusion they came to in the heat of the moment...what else would they tell Gallant on the ice as to why they kicked him out?

Again, replay next year will change that call.