[PGT] Avalanche 5 - Flames 1 | Season Over

[AustinL_NHL]

In 20 career Playoff games, Gaudreau has 2 goals + 2 assists for 4 points 5v5.

In 20 career Playoff games, Monahan has 3 goals + 0 assists for 3 points 5v5.

That is like... really, really, really bad.

Oof.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

The only way I’ll fell better about this is if the Avs lose in the cup final. Preferably to Columbus or NYI. Except the leafs, then the Avs can win.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by flizzenflozz

No! is that true??

Yes, it happened.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

The Sharks have been on the brink for 15 years. They have 1 cup final appearance to show for it.

They also have the same amount playoff wins in their current series as we do going back quite a few years

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Inferno

There's no guarantee he puts up those same points if the rest of his team is playing as ####ty as the Flames did.

But does he pot maybe 3 and boost Gaudreau's output a little by giving him more space out there, and in the process helping them seal games 2 and 4?

Could see it.

[dino7c]

I think the Avs might be better than we are giving credit for though...I will be interested to see how the next series goes

[FlamesAreOne]

Can't wait to see the Avs lose next round.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Split98

They also have the same amount playoff wins in their current series as we do going back quite a few years

Touché.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Flames would regret trading Gaudreau. With the right players he would dominate, even in the playoffs IMO

Honestly, Bennett did work tonight in Gaudreau having his best game of the series. Bennett physical presence and willingness to carry the puck in him did lead to Gaudreau getting some opportunities.

Next season Bennett needs to be given a real fair chance to be a top 6 player. Let him play with players that aren't anchors, and see if it leads to productivity or not. I feel Bennett and Gaudreau would compliment each other well.

[Angelino]

Not really sad or surprised. This is the normal course of affairs for the Flames in the playoffs. Nothing new.

The Flames franchise has been a failure in the playoffs for the last 30 years outside of a miraculous 2004 run. I don’t expect any different if the core remains the same next year. Same mentally weak players, same pathetic playoff results.

[Voodooman]

Hats off to the Flames for their creativity...I really didn’t see them losing in 5 with Mike Smith being the team’s series MVP coming at all. Some solid subterfuge from the writer’s room.

Also (and I don’t think this is the annoyance or liquor talking), I hope this was Monahan’s last game as a Flame. Just zero compete level when the going gets tough.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I think the Avs might be better than we are giving credit for though...I will be interested to see how the next series goes

Bet they get steamrolled.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Here's the thing that you're fundamentally missing

He generates offense in a season that doesn't really matter very much. This playoff has shown that

When it comes to the playoffs, Gaudreau is about as close to useless as you can get from a star. He is almost a complete non-factor. His one playoff point since 2015 is a secondary assist in a game the Flames lost

If you trade Gaudreau (and I think they should consider it), well, maybe it's time they get a crack at the lottery. It's not exactly something to sniff at. Literally every other team who's been around for more than two years has participated in the lottery! The Flames have never had the opportunity to select from that high-end pool of upper-echelon, top-of-the-board talent. They've always had to count on the underdogs coming through.

Not that I'm advocating for tanking as a first choice. I think they can give Gaudreau another crack at it. But if they trade him, it shouldn't be necessarily to tank. Just get another star who cares. Get another centre. Play Tkachuk on the first line with this dynamic centre and Lindholm on the right side.

Tkachuk - star centre acquired for JG - Lindholm
Bennett - Monahan - new right winger (Mangiapane?)

You’d trade Johnny Gaudreau but would keep Monahan? Without Gaudreau feeding him tap ins, he’d never sniff 30 goals again. Monahan plays a very lazy game, possibly because he’s so use to Gaudreau getting him the puck, but he doesn’t do much outside of shooting.

Not a lot of playmaking ability, poor defender, slow on the back check, soft on puck battles. Watching Monahan struggle the last 3 months while watching other playoff series where other teams’ #1 centers have dominated tells me a lot about the #1 center we have.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

But does he pot maybe 3 and boost Gaudreau's output a little by giving him more space out there, and in the process helping them seal games 2 and 4?

Could see it.

We'll never know what he could have done. He could have easily #### the bed like the rest of the team.

[browna]

Backlund and Lindholm finish at a team worst - 5 for the playoffs.
Backlund on the ice for 3 of the 4 Avs gwg.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

You’d trade Johnny Gaudreau but would keep Monahan? Without Gaudreau feeding him tap ins, he’d never sniff 30 goals again. Monahan plays a very lazy game, possibly because he’s so use to Gaudreau getting him the puck, but he doesn’t do much outside of shooting. Not a lot of playmaking ability, poor defender, slow on the back check. Watching Monahan struggle the last 3 months while watching other playoff series where other teams’ #1 centers have dominated tells me a lot about the #1 center we have.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Monahan had 22 goals as a rookie playing on a low-pressure line with Joe Colborne and Mike Cammalleri. Remember?

Put him on a sheltered line behind a true #1 line with Tkachuk and a real #1C. I think it'd make a world of difference.

[calgaryfox]

What makes this even more hard to swallow was listening to Cassie Captain-Obvious's accompanying drivel for 5 consecutive games.

Got to be Monahan's last game as a Flame. No fight, no desire to win, no intimidation -The Lady Bing trophy would look nice next to his pot pourri and scented candles.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Inferno

We'll never know what he could have done. He could have easily #### the bed like the rest of the team.

When Vegas was sputtering early in game one vs the Sharks, Stone took the team on his back and scored to start the momentum going the other way, and had a huge hand in keeping it going.

Stone has different DNA than a number of guys on this team. I think he would make a difference. Enough to see this be a 6 or 7 game series with half the roster dragging their feet.

[Angelino]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Monahan had 22 goals as a rookie playing on a low-pressure line with Joe Colborne and Mike Cammalleri. Remember?

Put him on a sheltered line behind a true #1 line with Tkachuk and a real #1C. I think it'd make a world of difference.

Monahan as a 2C
Backlund as a 3C

Makes the most sense

[nik-]

Originally Posted by AC

And just like that, my playoff beard becomes a depression beard.

It's not a depression beard until you have Doritos crumbs in it and you're doing blades in the kitchen by yourself.