04-15-2019, 01:56 PM
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#2661
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Last edited by Derek Sutton; 04-15-2019 at 01:57 PM.
Reason: Not very well thought out post
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04-15-2019, 02:21 PM
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#2662
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30-55 is crazy busy. Then the kids move out and life is gravy.
But when the dude is talking about the younger generation, I don’t think he’s talking about the 35 year old with two kids and a growing career.
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04-15-2019, 02:22 PM
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#2663
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear
15 min of your time to have your say in choosing your Government for the next 2.1 Million minutes is a ####ing no-brainer.
Voter apathy is BS
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Especially with how easy it is to vote now days with advanced voting. It took me just as much time to vote as it would to run into a place to grab a coffee.
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04-15-2019, 02:36 PM
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#2665
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Muta
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The UCP’s promise to hold a referendum on equalization in Alberta might be one of the most misleading and idiotic vats of snake oil ever peddled to an angry and vulnerable population on the campaign trail.
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Why dont you tell us what you really think.
Still, overall, I didn't think any of that article was unfair. A lot of the UCP platform is red meat for aggrieved Albertans, no two ways about it. Nothing too surprising, but a good summary.
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04-15-2019, 02:41 PM
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#2666
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Muta
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Ha ha ha. Anyone else get a NDP ad pop-up while reading that. Was kind of fitting.
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04-15-2019, 02:46 PM
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#2667
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Why dont you tell us what you really think.
Still, overall, I didn't think any of that article was unfair. A lot of the UCP platform is red meat for aggrieved Albertans, no two ways about it. Nothing too surprising, but a good summary.
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What did you think of this comment;
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Losing is the goal. Being angry is the goal. Creating a perpetual culture of grievance and victimhood, one in which we can always blame Ottawa for our suffering, is the goal. All the better to ensure we always elect Conservative premiers—truly, the only premiers who are fighting for Alberta’s interests—to charge Don Quixote style at the distant eastern windmill.
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Kind of taking a shot at Albertans no? She's right in some ways that we do blame Ottawa for a lot of our issues (plenty warranted) as well as our self-inflicted issues (we did vote in an NDP government after all) but I get the vibe of sour grapes that her party of choice (NDP) may be out.
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04-15-2019, 02:47 PM
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#2668
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
What did you think of this comment;
Kind of taking a shot at Albertans no? She's right in some ways that we do blame Ottawa for a lot of our issues even the ones that are self-inflicted but I get the vibe she's angry that her party of choice (NDP) may be out.
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Thats the whole point of the article IMO.
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04-15-2019, 02:48 PM
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#2669
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
What did you think of this comment;
Kind of taking a shot at Albertans no? She's right in some ways that we do blame Ottawa for a lot of our issues even the ones that are self-inflicted but I get the vibe she's angry that her party of choice (NDP) may be out.
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The culture of grievance which has basically dominated Albertan politics is a big reason why I don't see myself coming back for the short-term. It's too much. Not the Alberta that I love.
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04-15-2019, 02:52 PM
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#2670
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
her party of choice (NDP)
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Link to this claim?
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04-15-2019, 02:52 PM
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#2671
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by peter12
The culture of grievance which has basically dominated Albertan politics is a big reason why I don't see myself coming back for the short-term. It's too much. Not the Alberta that I love.
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How old are you and how far back do we have to go to the Alberta you love? It's been this way in Alberta since the 80's and probably back further.
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04-15-2019, 02:52 PM
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#2672
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There's definitely a belief in Alberta that if there's a Liberal government in Ottawa we need a Conservative government here to stand up for us. Remember the Dave Rutherford Show? Its ratings peaked when Chretien and Martin were in power, and cratered once Harper was elected.
Anyone who wants to see the NDP or Alberta Party running this province in the future should hope for a Conservative win in the next federal election.
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04-15-2019, 02:53 PM
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#2673
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
How old are you and how far back do we have to go to the Alberta you love? It's been this way in Alberta since the 80's and probably back further.
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33, old boy. I know that it has always had an undertone to the civic discourse, but it hasn't been this bad since the early 80's.
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04-15-2019, 02:56 PM
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#2674
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Muta
Link to this claim?
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It's my assumption based off the sour grapes vibe of her article. It doesn't sound like something I would expect from someone that was a staunch Alberta Party supporter as they would have known their party never had a chance.
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04-15-2019, 02:59 PM
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#2675
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
It's my assumption based off the sour grapes vibe of her article. It doesn't sound like something I would expect from someone that was a staunch Alberta Party supporter as they would have known their party never had a chance.
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The UCP cannot be the party of choice for anyone with even an inkling of social progressivism.
It's full of dinosaurs. Yes, they will probably (maybe) do better for the economy, but the UCP represents a political viewpoint that a lot of us hoped had gone away for good in Alberta.
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04-15-2019, 03:00 PM
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#2676
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by peter12
33, old boy. I know that it has always had an undertone to the civic discourse, but it hasn't been this bad since the early 80's.
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But you weren't alive then so you I'm not sure where you are getting your perspective from.
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04-15-2019, 03:01 PM
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#2677
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
But you weren't alive then so you I'm not sure where you are getting your perspective from.
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Polls, old boy.
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04-15-2019, 03:03 PM
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#2678
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peter12
The UCP cannot be the party of choice for anyone with even an inkling of social progressivism.
It's full of dinosaurs. Yes, they will probably (maybe) do better for the economy, but the UCP represents a political viewpoint that a lot of us hoped had gone away for good in Alberta.
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That's your opinion man.
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04-15-2019, 03:08 PM
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#2679
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In the Sin Bin
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Maybe for most people with bills to pay and mouths to feed social progressivism isn't the number one issue
Its really not that complicated
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04-15-2019, 03:08 PM
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#2680
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
It's my assumption based off the sour grapes vibe of her article. It doesn't sound like something I would expect from someone that was a staunch Alberta Party supporter as they would have known their party never had a chance.
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Ah, gotcha. so no actual source then.
Writes article cautionary in nature to UCP's claims, must be an NDPer. Couldn't possibly be a centrist or conservative herself.
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