Alberta Election Thread - Election Day April 16 2019

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

This is literally no different than people drawing swastikas on NDP signs. It's also no different than people posting Pikachu or satirical signs on their own volition. Both UCP and NDP parties have no involvement with any of these signs and incidents and it's ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

Except someone with key NDP interests spent some money to have these manufactured. We aren't talking about graffiti here. I always enjoy how people froth at the mouth when the people they don't support stoop to this level and then quickly dismiss it as normal when the group they support does the same thing or worse.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

This is literally no different than people drawing swastikas on NDP signs. It's also no different than people posting Pikachu or satirical signs on their own volition. Both UCP and NDP parties have no involvement with any of these signs and incidents and it's ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

It is different in that it appears to be a coordinated and funded effort, and you can bet that if it's not the NDP doing it, it's an NDP affiliated group. The difference is basically "awful person being awful" versus "scummy election tactic".

[Muta]

I miss this sign from 2015:

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

It is different in that it appears to be a coordinated and funded effort, and you can bet that if it's not the NDP doing it, it's an NDP affiliated group. The difference is basically "awful person being awful" versus "scummy election tactic".

NDP affiliated - as in funded? or just aligned with values?

If the latter, the Soldiers of Odin are doing their part by patrolling mosques for the UCP.

[GreenLantern2814]

I think, for the good of everyone, we're heading for a minority government. I don't know on which side, but this election is far too contentious to result in a majority for anyone.

Personally, I think our system functions better under minority governments - normally, they curb everyone's worst impulses.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I think, for the good of everyone, we're heading for a minority government. I don't know on which side, but this election is far too contentious to result in a majority for anyone.

Personally, I think our system functions better under minority governments - normally, they curb everyone's worst impulses.

There is an extremely small chance of a minority. No third party is winning more than 1 seat IMO.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I think, for the good of everyone, we're heading for a minority government. I don't know on which side, but this election is far too contentious to result in a majority for anyone.

Personally, I think our system functions better under minority governments - normally, they curb everyone's worst impulses.

Also the part where nothing significant can get done and the inevitability of it resulting in another early election.

[crazy_eoj]

The NDP fairy came to visit in Calgary today:

NSFW!

[crazy_eoj]

NDP Government being sued by small business owners hurt by the inept changes made by NDP ideology:

“I nurtured my business and built something of very high quality that provided me with a comfortable living for me — a single mother — to raise my daughter. I had flexibility to be there for my daughter. Now, that’s all been taken from me and I have not been compensated at all for this state-run confiscation of my livelihood,”....

“The NDP government has again demonstrated their incompetence and inability to help build Alberta’s economy,” Llewellyn said Wednesday.

“The way the government has rolled this out began with poor planning and incompetent execution that has led to chaos in the industry and has left people wanting to get licensed waiting for unconscionable amounts of time,” said Llewellyn, who was the co-owner of Certified Driver Testing — with a staff of eight people in Calgary.

One driver examiner who has since taken a job with the province says the disarray in the system is “astonishing” and exceeded even her low expectations.

“There is so much wrong with how this has been implemented, I hardly know where to begin,”

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...oadblocks-grow

[troutman]

http://cjsw.com/election2019/?fbclid...L8R8KukROVlXZY

CJSW had the chance to sit do with four provincial leaders for a special Election coverage episode!

Leaders from all major provincial parties were invited to answer questions that matter to you. We received participation from these four parties.

Tune in tonight at 8:00 pm and on Election Day at 11:30 am and 8:30 pm to hear what they had to say. Find it online anytime at cjsw.com/election2019

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

NDP Government being sued by small business owners hurt by the inept changes made by NDP ideology:



https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...oadblocks-grow

Well, good luck with that (especially if, as the article suggests, the claim is hopelessly based on a Charter tort for breach of right to life, liberty and security). Hope the plaintiffs have budgeted for a costs award in favour of the Province.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by troutman

http://cjsw.com/election2019/?fbclid...L8R8KukROVlXZY

Not that I am going to listen to her interview, but the Green leader of Alberta is something else thats for sure.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

NDP Government being sued by small business owners hurt by the inept changes made by NDP ideology:

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...oadblocks-grow

But it’s not just the business owners who are suffering. Already, in many parts of Alberta, it is virtually impossible to get a Class 4 driver’s test — which is needed before someone can drive an ambulance, taxi or small bus, several examiners revealed, something that a Government of Alberta spokesperson acknowledged Wednesday.

Many of the private businesses provided tests from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. Monday to Saturday. Some would work until 10 p.m. in the summer months to help accommodate people needing their licence for employment purposes.

Now, the government driver examiners work from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Monday to Friday, just like the old days, before then-premier Ralph Klein privatized the system in 1993. Before privatization, people often had to wait up to three months to take their driving test and often had to book half a day off of work to do so.

“The NDP government has again demonstrated their incompetence and inability to help build Alberta’s economy,” Llewellyn said Wednesday.

“The cost to the taxpayer must be huge,” she added. The government has bought a fleet of new vehicles for the driver examiners, they all got government-issued cellphones and special tablets to book and grade the drivers with, that “have been glitching out all over the place.”

She says she was sent two hours out of town to conduct a single driver’s test. She doesn’t want the name of the city she was sent to named, in case her identity could be revealed as a result.

Imagine the cost to taxpayers of that?

In short, the NDP government has destroyed a perfectly functioning system that simply needed more oversight and replaced it with a dilapidated dinosaur of a system. It will cost Albertans more in time, money and frustration, and now court costs.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

NDP is scraping the bottom of the barrel here with these decisive tactics. I'm actually kind of shocked just how bad the NDP has come off when you look at stuff like this, the fake UCP "another BOZO" signs, lame attack ads, etc. I fail to see where the NDP is socially any more progressive than the UCP which is essentially the basket they are putting all their eggs in.

Stay in your lane, colonizer.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Well, good luck with that (especially if, as the article suggests, the claim is hopelessly based on a Charter tort for breach of right to life, liberty and security). Hope the plaintiffs have budgeted for a costs award in favour of the Province.

I can't imagine this claim has any chance of succeeding. But it does highlight the fact that - no matter how right wing Notley is within the NDP world, she's still an ND, and private enterprise is an enemy to be destroyed.

[Fuzz]

RE: Chemgear driving test post:


It's possible it is being horribly bungled, but the private sytem has led to far to many "shouldn't be on the road" drivers, include professionals. See: Humbolt, most semi drivers, and every taxi driver in Calgary. This needed to be done, hopefully they can avoid NDPing it up to badly.

[Resolute 14]

Has the private system led to "far to (sic) many 'shouldn't be on the road' drivers", or are we just letting a high profile anecdote colour our opinion? Can you quantify that belief, and more importantly, can you show a downward trend post-deregulation compared to pre-deregulation?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

RE: Chemgear driving test post:


It's possible it is being horribly bungled, but the private sytem has led to far to many "shouldn't be on the road" drivers, include professionals. See: Humbolt, most semi drivers, and every taxi driver in Calgary. This needed to be done, hopefully they can avoid NDPing it up to badly.

This is awfully presumptive.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I can't imagine this claim has any chance of succeeding. But it does highlight the fact that - no matter how right wing Notley is within the NDP world, she's still an ND, and private enterprise is an enemy to be destroyed.

Well, I mean, you are ascribing that motive to the NDP's decision. There are, of course, other possible motives/intents that could explain the decision to bring this into the scope of public services. Indeed, the Transportation Minister has provided such (see, for example, https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...er-road-tests/).

Obviously, you might not accept those justifications and prefer your theory that the NDP considers all private enterprise an enemy to be destroyed. That is entirely your prerogative.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Has the private system led to "far to (sic) many 'shouldn't be on the road' drivers", or are we just letting a high profile anecdote colour our opinion? Can you quantify that belief, and more importantly, can you show a downward trend post-deregulation compared to pre-deregulation?

Obviously no, I don't have the numbers on it. But I fail to comprehend how taxi drivers can get licenses unless there is some collusion between the testing people they use and the drivers. Like Taxi co says "we will send all drivers to you if you aren't to hard on them." Steady business for the testers. I don't think it is something that should be left without over-site, which is appears what has happened. That being said, ya, I'm not surprised the NDP is bunging it up. But the concept is sound.