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Old 01-07-2007, 07:21 PM   #121
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They are Mormons and more faithful to Joseph Smith's teaching than
those who broke away from them to enter Statehood.
What exactly are you talking about?

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I have read enough of the book of Mormon to know it conflicts with the Bible greatly. Christians are monotheistic. Mormons are not.
Clearly, you haven't.

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Old 01-07-2007, 07:24 PM   #122
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I find it revealing that one has to go to prehistoric times to identify
polygamy that worked.
How about every other species known to man, besides humans?

Cultures around the world practise it openly as well.

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Define "worked" please.
Is monogamy working now with the number of divorses?
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Old 01-07-2007, 07:24 PM   #123
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The difference is we are not talking about guardianship. We are talking about three way shared custody. That is a huge difference. This has only been afforded to married/common-law couples or divorced/separated parents.

If these three can share custody of a child why not Winston Blackmoore and his 5 or 6 wives? After all they all participate in the primary care of said child. And if they can be afforded this status why deny them the "right" (as so many call it) of being married.

You see once we opened the door to redefine marriage we were not going to be able to shut it. The definition will continue to dilute until marriage as the institution we know will cease to exist.
Imagine if this same logic were applied to allowing women/non white ethnicities to vote... I mean, allowing all these people to vote will surely open the doors to animals voting....hmmmm, maybe that was just delayed.

And just an FYI, how other people define Marriage has no impact on the relationships in your life, that is up to you.
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Old 01-07-2007, 10:12 PM   #124
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How about every other species known to man, besides humans?

Cultures around the world practise it openly as well.
Yes but you or someone chose an ancient culture which we have no written record of. Show me one of these known cultures where we find it working well. Perhaps there are exceptions to the rule but the ones I'm
familiar with are inferior to our accepted cultural norms. Women are left
powerless within the relationship and are taught this is because they
are naturally inferior to men. Female children are taught this from birth
and male children are often abused and worked hard from a young age.
Because there isn't enough women for the men, boys who aren't the favorite son have little prospect of any wife or affluence within the society.


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Is monogamy working now with the number of divorses?
Divorces have skyrocketed within the last 50 years because our society
has been changing dramatically. This has occurred because of outside influences(outside the home) affecting our families. Media and public education being the largest contributing factors. People marry today with different expectations than they did years before and often change those expectations during the course of the marriage. It is a testament to the institution that many survive and prosper.
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Old 01-07-2007, 10:30 PM   #125
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Polygamy was practiced by many prominent figures in the Bible, so that's at least one written record.

Though I would say that's hardly a good example of successful polygamy; by todays standards their standards of behaviour are horrible.
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Old 01-07-2007, 10:46 PM   #126
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Imagine if this same logic were applied to allowing women/non white ethnicities to vote... I mean, allowing all these people to vote will surely open the doors to animals voting....hmmmm, maybe that was just delayed.
I'm not aware of any animals who want to vote. I am aware of some polygamists who want the ability to marry. I can see benefits for non-sexual partners who are committed to living together. When it reaches that point I have no doubt the odd religious cult will seek these benefits. There is one over by Nelson B.C. right now who hold everything in common. Why not children?

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And just an FYI, how other people define Marriage has no impact on the relationships in your life, that is up to you.
No what it affects is the next generation. They will grow up without any clear or appealing marital model. If the women have children it will be with the expectation of probably raising them alone. The State will take on more and more of this responsibility through earlier and earlier child care and after school placements. Of course when they are home media will take a large babysitting role. This generation will grow up with even less of an idea of the dynamics of a family with a father and a mother and siblings is. They will also grow up with scant positive male role models. Their view of the world will be influenced by media and the State.
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Old 01-07-2007, 10:53 PM   #127
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Polygamy was practiced by many prominent figures in the Bible, so that's at least one written record.
Yes it was and it was as wrong then as it is now. Regarding the behavior: I would say that the historical examples are as unsuccessful are the contemporary ones. They both degrade the women and children involved.
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