Alberta Election Thread - Election Day April 16 2019

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Envitro

I've never used any government service since I've been a tax-paying adult.

You must have a mighty narrow view of what 'government service' is.

[Ozy_Flame]

Kenney says UCP won't 'get distracted' by GSAs and other issues 'voters aren't talking about'

While he's not wrong with the focus on the economy and pipelines, let's not forget he's the one who introduced the whole GSA controversy - unnecessarily I might add - completely on his own and under ideological pretenses.

It is hypocritical to introduce an un-needed and un-requested policy change and then tell Albertan's this isn't an issue we should be worrying about and no one is talking about. Pure arrogance.

[brocoli]

Originally Posted by automaton 3

West Lethbridge has a high proportion of U of L staff and students. In my neighbourhood all of the professors have NDP lawn signs.

It looks the same in my neighbourhood too. I also wish that it wasn't Shannon Phillips, but most likely she'll keep her seat.

[Ozy_Flame]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1115731596831744001

The fact that candidates are not showing up to constituency debates is extremely problematic for a number of reasons, including voters not getting to hear directly from their UCP candidate, candidates not having voices of their own (top-down party militancy), and making a sham of the democratic process.

Every candidate should be at these forums as best as they can, considering they are likely going to become the winner in many seats. This suggests to me that the UCP does not want them speaking for themselves, because they don't trust their own candidates to not say bozo things. Khan is right, what are they trying to hide?

If they can't be bothered to show up for for debates against the other candidates, what are they going to do when in the Legislature? Are they even going to show up?

This is concerning on many, many fronts.

[dre]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Every candidate should be at these forums as best as they can, considering they are likely going to become the winner in many seats. This suggests to me that the UCP does not want them speaking for themselves, because they don't trust their own candidates to not say bozo things. Khan is right, what are they trying to hide?

If they can't be bothered to show up for for debates against the other candidates, what are they going to do when in the Legislature? Are they even going to show up?

This is concerning on many, many fronts.

I had concerns with the UCP and phoned Ric McIver last week and left him a message. He actually returned my call that same day and we had, what I think, a good discussion.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by dre

I had concerns with the UCP and phoned Ric McIver last week and left him a message. He actually returned my call that same day and we had, what I think, a good discussion.

Do tell, because this is pretty interesting. And good on him for returning the call.

[dre]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Do tell, because this is pretty interesting. And good on him for returning the call.

I had concerns about a UCP candidate. I found Ric to be genuine and felt satisfied with his thoughts on the matter. I am off to the airport and can add a bit more later.

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

https://twitter.com/user/status/1115731596831744001

The fact that candidates are not showing up to constituency debates is extremely problematic for a number of reasons, including voters not getting to hear directly from their UCP candidate, candidates not having voices of their own (top-down party militancy), and making a sham of the democratic process.

Every candidate should be at these forums as best as they can, considering they are likely going to become the winner in many seats. This suggests to me that the UCP does not want them speaking for themselves, because they don't trust their own candidates to not say bozo things. Khan is right, what are they trying to hide?

If they can't be bothered to show up for for debates against the other candidates, what are they going to do when in the Legislature? Are they even going to show up?

This is concerning on many, many fronts.

I don't need to go back very far in this thread to see the NDP fan club talking about how the UCP should have just shut up and made as little noise as possible.
Now they shut up and make as little noise as possible and that same NDP fan club is upset?

I do agree that they should be there but at the same time, with everything that is going on in terms of candidates shooting themselves in the foot and the fact the NDP who has said a whole lot of nothing other than UCP is bad, perhaps it works to be a smart strategy. I also have a hunch that Mr "I am everything" Kahn is making this sound bigger than it is.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

https://twitter.com/user/status/1115731596831744001

The fact that candidates are not showing up to constituency debates is extremely problematic for a number of reasons, including voters not getting to hear directly from their UCP candidate, candidates not having voices of their own (top-down party militancy), and making a sham of the democratic process.

Every candidate should be at these forums as best as they can, considering they are likely going to become the winner in many seats. This suggests to me that the UCP does not want them speaking for themselves, because they don't trust their own candidates to not say bozo things. Khan is right, what are they trying to hide?

If they can't be bothered to show up for for debates against the other candidates, what are they going to do when in the Legislature? Are they even going to show up?

This is concerning on many, many fronts.

If its that big of a concern there is a very simple solution.

Anyone who doesnt attend...then dont vote for them.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by transplant99

If its that big of a concern there is a very simple solution.

Anyone who doesnt attend...then dont vote for them.

Between the kamikaze candidate colluding, refusing to remove atrocious far-right candidates with dangerous views, and ignoring democratic mechanisms to engage voters, I wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between this party and a militant dictatorship bent on ignoring its own citizens in pursuit of total power and control.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Between the kamikaze candidate colluding, refusing to remove atrocious far-right candidates with dangerous views, and ignoring democratic mechanisms to engage voters, I wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between this party and a militant dictatorship bent on ignoring its own citizens in pursuit of total power and control.

Ummmm....ok then.

But again, simple solution to candidates that dont show up to riding debates/forums....right?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Ummmm....ok then.

But again, simple solution to candidates that dont show up to riding debates/forums....right?

100% don't vote for them. We on the same page, my dude

[Dion]

Notley is wrong in this case. The economy, jobs, pipelines and the carbon tax is what people are most concerned about. Social issues are a distant second in this election along with her smear and fear campaign. People are concerned about the debt level and the lack of jobs, pipelines and investments in this province

https://twitter.com/user/status/1115756970320048128

[Joborule]

Good grief.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

100% don't vote for them. We on the same page, my dude

I'm on the same page as both of you. It's disrespectful to voters to not show up to hear their concerns and answer their questions.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Dion

Social issues are a distant second in this election along with her smear and fear campaign.

"Smear" has a connotation of being false. If a candidate goes and calls transexual people "perversions" it's not smearing them to call them bigots, it's a fact.

I would also say that "fear" in this context is usually based on something that very likely would not happen, but when the UCP is campaigning on removing Bill 24, that's again just stating facts.

I get it that you don't think these issues should matter in comparison to the other "more important" aspects, fair enough, but it's not smear and fear.

[Ozy_Flame]

What was up with that other tweet that made Notley look like the Emperor? Christ almighty.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Good grief.

Wait, what happened to that picture of Notley looking like Palpatine, Dion?

That's gonna haunt my sleep.

[Flames0910]

Originally Posted by Dion

Notley is wrong in this case. The economy, jobs, pipelines and the carbon tax is what people are most concerned about. Social issues are a distant second in this election along with her smear and fear campaign. People are concerned about the debt level and the lack of jobs, pipelines and investments in this province

https://twitter.com/user/status/1115756970320048128

It's incredibly insulting to the hundred's of people who marched in support of GSA the other week in Calgary, Edmonton and Lethbridge to call them "a distraction" — and if you can't see that... well, it's already clear who you're voting for.

(Not to mention the fact that Kenney brought this issue up all on his own, so who's distracted??)

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Travis Munroe

I don't need to go back very far in this thread to see the NDP fan club talking about how the UCP should have just shut up and made as little noise as possible.

Now they shut up and make as little noise as possible and that same NDP fan club is upset?



I do agree that they should be there but at the same time, with everything that is going on in terms of candidates shooting themselves in the foot and the fact the NDP who has said a whole lot of nothing other than UCP is bad, perhaps it works to be a smart strategy. I also have a hunch that Mr "I am everything" Kahn is making this sound bigger than it is.

Hold up a minute.

There’s a difference between shutting up on social media and in the news and not coming to candidate forums. Why would you say that?