Alberta Election Thread - Election Day April 16 2019

[Dion]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I expect to watch this debate, strongly dislike all of the candidates and end up staring moodily into the fire while slowly sipping whiskey from a dirty glass.

[Weitz]

The hour or so of TV I might get to watch tonight certainly won't be spent watching a debate.

Looking forward to reading the various biased reviews of the debate tomorrow. I'm certain everyone will claim victory while polls won't change much.

[CaptainYooh]

Nothing good comes out of these debates. I would give moderator a button that turns off candidate's mic as soon as their 3-min response time's up or as soon as they start going on a tangent by evading an uncomfortable question and giving a prepared electioneering BS instead.


Seriously, we all should be hearing and talking about:

how to get every last bit of oil & gas out of this province as soon as possible before a new form of energy could replace it and make it worthless;

how to diversify our O&G sector by investing in processing petrochemicals into something other than fuels QUICKLY;

how to make our labour force more attractive and less costly to big employers;

how to lower our cost of living;

how to spark and promote in-migration growth;

how to reduce bloated public administration and health care costs...


Instead, we are forced to listen non-stop to this white noise of non-issues like GSA rules and what some candidate said five years ago in a tweet about something equally unimportant...

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Weitz

The hour or so of TV I might get to watch tonight certainly won't be spent watching a debate.

Looking forward to reading the various biased reviews of the debate tomorrow. I'm certain everyone will claim victory while polls won't change much.

Well if you're going to kill an hour tonight watching people who know the answer to everything and have a solution for nothing it's either the debate or your Edmonton Oilers!

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Slava

Well if you're going to kill an hour tonight watching people who know the answer to everything and have a solution for nothing it's either the debate or your Edmonton Oilers!

I think a couple episodes of Veep will suffice tonight. Now that is some politics I can get behind! But thats actually a great comparison haha

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by transplant99

This fellow disagrees

https://twitter.com/user/status/1113416483990798336

He is also the guy who thinks Alberta separating is a good thing.

[Erick Estrada]

In this case do the debates even matter? Most Albertans have already decided where their vote is going.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Instead, we are forced to listen non-stop to this white noise of non-issues like GSA rules and what some candidate said five years ago in a tweet about something equally unimportant...

Nobody is forced to listen to anything.

That said, you were quite passionate about the “serious transgressions” posed by Deborah Drever’s old social media posts, so I’m sure you can at least empathise from experience that some may feel it’s important to talk about these things.

Not to say you’re being hypocritical, or that you can’t have changed in the last little bit, but surely you can appreciate that some people may be at the same place you were not long ago.

[Husky]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Nothing good comes out of these debates. I would give moderator a button that turns off candidate's mic as soon as their 3-min response time's up or as soon as they start going on a tangent by evading an uncomfortable question and giving a prepared electioneering BS instead.


Seriously, we all should be hearing and talking about:

how to get every last bit of oil & gas out of this province as soon as possible before a new form of energy could replace it and make it worthless;

how to diversify our O&G sector by investing in processing petrochemicals into something other than fuels QUICKLY;

how to make our labour force more attractive and less costly to big employers;

how to lower our cost of living;

how to spark and promote in-migration growth;

how to reduce bloated public administration and health care costs...


Instead, we are forced to listen non-stop to this white noise of non-issues like GSA rules and what some candidate said five years ago in a tweet about something equally unimportant...

Well said

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

In this case do the debates even matter? Most Albertans have already decided where their vote is going.

I haven't, and I know others who are undecided as well. I haven't seen any space on the podium for Civilization Ending Meteorite though, so I'm pretty disappointed I won't get to here from that. Seems to be my front runner right now.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

What happens is the affluent, motivated parents take their kids out of the public system and surround themselves with homogenous enclaves of similarly affluent, motivated peers. What's left behind is the troubled, undisciplined, and difficult. Give it a generation or two and you have a widening class gap, like you see in the UK and the U.S., with all the attendant political and social ills, not least of which is decreased economic mobility. I don't know who anyone could look at those countries and say "hey, I want Canada to be more like that, where the rich and poor live in different worlds and increasingly regard one another with contempt."

We have one of the best school systems in the world. Why imitate countries that are falling apart?

This isn't really what happens.

I'm not a huge fan of private schools, but they serve some purposes.

I guess the question then becomes: If your kid goes to private school, and their education should therefore not be subsidized, then does that mean the family doesn't have to pay the education part of their property taxes?

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I haven't, and I know others who are undecided as well. I haven't seen any space on the podium for Civilization Ending Meteorite though, so I'm pretty disappointed I won't get to here from that. Seems to be my front runner right now.

I initially knew a bunch of people who didn't really want to vote UCP but weren't voting NDP, then the AB party rolled out their platform and they realized they aren't really the fiscally conservative party people think they are. Made those that I know sort of decide to vote UCP.

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

Are we still pretending the Alberta Party is relevant?

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Handsome B. Wonderful

Are we still pretending the Alberta Party is relevant?

I voted for them

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Nobody is forced to listen to anything.

That said, you were quite passionate about the “serious transgressions” posed by Deborah Drever’s old social media posts, so I’m sure you can at least empathise from experience that some may feel it’s important to talk about these things.

Not to say you’re being hypocritical, or that you can’t have changed in the last little bit, but surely you can appreciate that some people may be at the same place you were not long ago.

That's not a good parallel. Drever's past was unknown until she's got elected. My outrage at that time really was about people willing to vote for just about anyone wearing orange-green rather than for a real person that is going to represent them in Government. Would those who voted for Drever not voted for her if they knew about her still being a student, middle-fingering Canada flag and posing nude in a gross sex violence poster? I hope so, but I don't have too many illusions about it. Quite possibly, not.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Handsome B. Wonderful

Are we still pretending the Alberta Party is relevant?

Are we happy enough with the 2 alternatives that we should dismiss/ignore a 3rd option simply because we don't think they have a chance at forming government?

[stone hands]

Originally Posted by Shazam

This isn't really what happens.

I'm not a huge fan of private schools, but they serve some purposes.

I guess the question then becomes: If your kid goes to private school, and their education should therefore not be subsidized, then does that mean the family doesn't have to pay the education part of their property taxes?

no, it just means you're willingly putting your child into a private institution when a public one exists

i dont have kids yet and gladly pay for other peoples kids educations because a more educated society is a better society for all of us

[CaptainCrunch]

I'm almost to the point of having decided my vote, part of me is like I don't want to watch the leaders debate because its going to be more angry politics from the NDP and UCP.


I'm tempted to record it so I can fast forward it.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by stone hands

no, it just means you're willingly putting your child into a private institution when a public one exists

i dont have kids yet and gladly pay for other peoples kids educations because a more educated society is a better society for all of us

I think politicians of all stripes and bureaucrats have tried that line of reasoning, and have accepted that the money follows the child.

Even "progressive" places like BC and Ontario have private schools up the wazoo. BC's public system is a total mess and is mostly crappy.

Want to make a more "efficient" school system? Abolish the Catholic systems. I can't believe my tax money is used to indoctrinate children into believing Jebus.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I'm almost to the point of having decided my vote, part of me is like I don't want to watch the leaders debate because its going to be more angry politics from the NDP and UCP.


I'm tempted to record it so I can fast forward it.

Thinking I'll do the same. Record it plus just read this thread. Not really interested in listening to Kenney dodge questions while actually saying nothing relevant then Notley talking about how bad the UCP is instead of talking about her own platform