04-01-2019, 01:21 PM
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#81
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I would be giving that top line spot duty at 5 on 5 and heavy PP usage.
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04-01-2019, 01:23 PM
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#82
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Says who? E=NG has flourished for more than two decades of chia·den·freu·de. It will take more than a meaningless, irrelevant game to undo all of that.
Besides, even better than scoring double digits on McHobo and his merry band of misfits would be doing so with the B-Team on the ice.
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A loss to the Oilers would likely provide more ammo for the ENG thread. Can you imagine the celebration and predictions of future greatness? "We just beat the West champs!" "It's all coming together under Hitch" "one more high draft pick and we are set". It would be amazing to see. Only the Oilers could win a game against a team missing half it's NHL regulars, with literally nothing to play for, and somehow spin that into a sign of great things to come.
In comparison, did anyone here predict future greatness because the Flames beat Vegas last year when the Knights had nothing to play for? That game meant nothing.
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04-01-2019, 02:44 PM
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#83
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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Pretty good indication that Czarnik will be sitting in Game 1. Barring any further injuries. Knock on wood.
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04-01-2019, 02:51 PM
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#84
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What exactly are the NHL rules around icing a competitive team? It doesn't matter tonight because it's against L.A. But I imagine if the Flames iced this lineup tonight against Montreal, the league might get an earful from Carolina and Columbus.
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04-01-2019, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
What exactly are the NHL rules around icing a competitive team? It doesn't matter tonight because it's against L.A. But I imagine if the Flames iced this lineup tonight against Montreal, the league might get an earful from Carolina and Columbus.
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I wonder if there are new rules in this regard. With gambling being a thing.
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04-01-2019, 03:01 PM
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#86
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
What exactly are the NHL rules around icing a competitive team? It doesn't matter tonight because it's against L.A. But I imagine if the Flames iced this lineup tonight against Montreal, the league might get an earful from Carolina and Columbus.
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its a fair point. having said that while its not their best team (lineup) it is still arguably a competitive one. all 6 of this D have played this year, and its not really resolved (after Andersson) where they slot in the pecking order, so the Flames would seem to be doing a defensible experiment actually. certainly the fact none of their remaining games have any playoff ramifications at all (short of the Flames impacting a few home ice matchups with Eastern teams) does make it easier- in fact the flames may or may not be throwing wrenches in the tank plans of 3 division rivals- secondary bonus!
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04-01-2019, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
What exactly are the NHL rules around icing a competitive team? It doesn't matter tonight because it's against L.A. But I imagine if the Flames iced this lineup tonight against Montreal, the league might get an earful from Carolina and Columbus.
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They'd be calling the Oilers every time they played then.
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04-01-2019, 03:08 PM
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#89
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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
I wonder if there are new rules in this regard. With gambling being a thing.
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That's why they announce the lineups in advance, so the gamblers and lines adjust accordingly.
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04-01-2019, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
What exactly are the NHL rules around icing a competitive team? It doesn't matter tonight because it's against L.A. But I imagine if the Flames iced this lineup tonight against Montreal, the league might get an earful from Carolina and Columbus.
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If the league allows you to expand your roster post TDL, they can't then turn around and enforce some arbitrary starting line up on teams. Who would decide that? What about injuries? Etc..
the way this should be framed is "Hey...Montreal....you dont like the roster of team X tonight? Then you should have won more games earlier this year and not be putting yourself in this position to lose a spot because of it"
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04-01-2019, 03:24 PM
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#91
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Originally Posted by heep223
I'd say scratch the entire top 6 and top 4 against the Oilers, just to be cheeky. Just totally meaningless game for the flames.
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If it would be legal, I'd ice the entire Stockton lineup against them just for the mockery.
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04-01-2019, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by transplant99
If the league allows you to expand your roster post TDL, they can't then turn around and enforce some arbitrary starting line up on teams. Who would decide that? What about injuries? Etc..
the way this should be framed is "Hey...Montreal....you dont like the roster of team X tonight? Then you should have won more games earlier this year and not be putting yourself in this position to lose a spot because of it"
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They have minimum numbers of veterans in pre season, presumably out of obligation to paying ticket holders, no?
They could put in place some measure, say a minimum per game cap hit that ensures they ice a somewhat competitive team
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04-01-2019, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
They have minimum numbers of veterans in pre season, presumably out of obligation to paying ticket holders, no?
They could put in place some measure, say a minimum per game cap hit that ensures they ice a somewhat competitive team
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There are two sides to this discussion: What obligates the Calgary Flames to expose their most important players to potential injury with virtually no benefit to them at the most important time of the season?
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04-01-2019, 03:46 PM
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As long as they are cap compliant, I don't think the NHL cares. They sure didn't care when the Flames were in a cap crunch and could only dress 16 for a game.
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04-01-2019, 03:49 PM
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Location: Calgary
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soooo... what do you guys think Peters is going to do for this game and the remaining two games:
a) rest the first two lines and first two defense pairings as much as possible no matter the game flow/outcome, or
b) change nothing, work everyone hard and go as hard as possible to get the team in the playoff mode?
I see benefits in either approach...
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04-01-2019, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
soooo... what do you guys think Peters is going to do for this game and the remaining two games:
a) rest the first two lines and first two defense pairings as much as possible no matter the game flow/outcome, or
b) change nothing, work everyone hard and go as hard as possible to get the team in the playoff mode?
I see benefits in either approach...
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Peters said tonight he is going to try to limit the Monahan Gaudreau line ice time to keep it manageable. More time for the other lines, wants to get Bennett chemistry with Janko and Neal. Likely to roll the three d pairings (which see the top 4 all sitting on the back to back)
He said he hasn’t settled on the Edmonton lineup but sees that you might want to ice a full lineup to keep guys sharp
I see him resting or limiting ice time for guys who are dinged up
You can see his pre game video here, running down the lineup for tonight.
https://www.nhl.com/flames/video/pre...092/c-67386903
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04-01-2019, 03:57 PM
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All three of today's expected D pairings (based on Peters' pre-game comments, not based on the Steinberg tweet) have logged NHL time together this season. While the caveat that they've all played third pair should be implicit, the expected goals for all three pairs have been outstanding:
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04-01-2019, 04:22 PM
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I suspect that top line will be sitting against the Ducks on Wednesday. Hopefully Johnny gets to a 100 tonight!
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04-01-2019, 04:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Peters said tonight he is going to try to limit the Monahan Gaudreau line ice time to keep it manageable. More time for the other lines, wants to get Bennett chemistry with Janko and Neal. Likely to roll the three d pairings (which see the top 4 all sitting on the back to back)
He said he hasn’t settled on the Edmonton lineup but sees that you might want to ice a full lineup to keep guys sharp
I see him resting or limiting ice time for guys who are dinged up
You can see his pre game video here, running down the lineup for tonight.
https://www.nhl.com/flames/video/pre...092/c-67386903 |
I like that they probably are in the lineup so as not to get cold, but to limit their exposure.
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04-01-2019, 04:40 PM
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#100
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Location: Vancouver
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Hoping for a 4 Pt night from Gaudreau so he can rest the remainder of the way.
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