[PGT] Flames lose another boring one. 2-1 Dallas

[Haplo]

Originally Posted by colbym72

I didnt think Brodie was that bad last night. Yeah he got walked on that first goal (as did two others), but he also scored our lone goal, and 5v5 he was 80.65% CF and on for 3 high danger chances for with 0 against.

Yeah he was good 5 on 5, but it's easy to single him out because of the two bad plays on the BP that led to two lucky goals for the Stars. It's certainly not any of our D's fault we are losing a lot more games since the All star break. Get the first line going and this team will be just as dominant as before.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by colbym72

I didnt think Brodie was that bad last night. Yeah he got walked on that first goal (as did two others), but he also scored our lone goal, and 5v5 he was 80.65% CF and on for 3 high danger chances for with 0 against.

If you are a big part of two goals against - I don't care how well you do 5 on 5.

[SofaProfessor]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Radulov is a bull, so I'm not all that hung up on the 1st goal against but Rittich channeling Ramo on the 2nd goal irked me. What was he doing exactly?.

Looked like he got ahead of himself and tried to anticipate the pass across that got caught up in someone's skates. If the pass gets over and he makes the save then we're talking about how Rittich made a fantastic save to keep the game within 1. Other than that, he looked like he was following the puck pretty well and, frankly, the team should win every game where the goalies only allow 2. One messy goal isn't going to keep me awake at night.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

First one: Lindholm gets his stick on the puck and chips it through Brodie’s legs, Radulov capitalizes.

second goal: Rittich was set and in position for back to back shot attempts that were both blocked and bounced perfectly to another Star. Not much he could do there.

Rittich was set?

He was 2 feet out of net at all times (including his Ramo-esque slide) until his final lunge.

I need to go back and watch the goal. Your take and Sofa Professor's take make me think I'm missing something.

[calgaryred]

Looked like watching the playoffs in 2017 last night

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[Joborule]

So the good thing is the Flames are doing alright in keeping the puck out of their net for the most part now. They're not averaging high GA's (+3).

The secondary scoring was getting the job done for a bit, but obviously it's not sustainable. Now that has dried up, the team is screwed until the top players start performing like top players.

Bad time for this to happen. It's been long enough that the top players may never figure it out at this point with playoffs right around the corner.

[Fire]

Final Score:

Brodie 2 - Brodie 1

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

What other teams are doing isn't relevant to the Flames. We know the Sharks aren't going to win the cup and are a good bet to get eliminated in the 1st round at the hands of the Knights so if they are your measuring stick then I suppose you are expecting failure?

I was responding to

"Playing worst of any team heading to the playoffs"

No, no they aren't

And Vegas aren't looking like world beaters at the moment either

Seems like all the teams that clinched have let off the gas for whatever reason

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Rittich was set?

He was 2 feet out of net at all times (including his Ramo-esque slide) until his final lunge.

I need to go back and watch the goal. Your take and Sofa Professor's take make me think I'm missing something.

Yeah. First shot attempt by Heiskanen he is ready and challenging nicely, shot is blocked and goes right to Sequin who tries to one time it (Rittich follows the puck and is in position for this broken play 2nd shot attempt).

The 2nd shot attempt is blocked, and goes right back to Heiskanen.

Sure he ends up wildly out of position for the goal. But he was reacting to back to back broken plays that worked perfectly for Dallas.

[Bingo]

I don't blame Brodie for that first goal. They're coached to stack the line and with that force the opposition to make a great play. Looked like he had it, then it hit something bounced and landed back on Radulov's stick.

If you play the line like that you're bound to get burned once and a while.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I don't blame Brodie for that first goal. They're coached to stack the line and with that force the opposition to make a great play. Looked like he had it, then it hit something bounced and landed back on Radulov's stick.

If you play the line like that you're bound to get burned once and a while.

I agree with this. I think Lindholm chips it, and if he hadn’t I bet Brodie controls the situation.

But his pass on the 2nd goal..... yikes.

[SofaProfessor]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Rittich was set?

He was 2 feet out of net at all times (including his Ramo-esque slide) until his final lunge.

I need to go back and watch the goal. Your take and Sofa Professor's take make me think I'm missing something.

I don't think anyone is arguing that he didn't get out of position and end up looking a little squirrely. There were 2 or 3 broken up passes/shots that were bouncing around in the slot and he got scrambling to try and get into position for where the puck was going to end up. He could have played it better but I also don't think he played it badly. If he stays in his original position he would stop the goal but if that pass had made it across then he'd be way out of position and we'd be wondering why he wasn't following the puck. Tough spot to be in for a goalie.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

If you are a big part of two goals against - I don't care how well you do 5 on 5.

The CP crucifixion knows no bounds. Being on the ice for a goal against doesn't make you responsible. On what planet is Brodie remotely a "big" part of the second goal against?

He touched the puck early in the shift made a pretty corral-able pass to Hanifin that Hanifin gets 999/1000 times:



that just slipped under Hanifin's stick by a hair Now if you're blaming that hairline error play as the reason we were scored on, I don't know what to say. Especially with everything that happens after.


Jankowski the deflects the puck TOWARDS the slot.



Brodie then ties up Janmark's stick, but he is outnumbed by Faksa. If he doesn't tie up Janmark's stick Janmark gets a pretty dangerous shot on goal. Oh and Lindholm is doing his best bambi impression:




Then Jankowski's momentum creates an awkwardly deflected shotblock that both gets himself out of position and directs the puck to the right. If Jankowksi simply lets Rittich make that save it's a routine PK save.



instead the puck deflects to Janmark, who is unable to get a shot off (because of Hanifin tying him up), and fans on the puck, flukily passing it to Faksa, who is also unable to get a shot off (because of Brodie), and passes to a wide open Heiskanen who scores on an empty net (because Rittich's momentum was towards stopping the Janmark shot).



Meanwhile Jankowski is floating around in no man's land. Seriously, someone please explain to me who or what Jankowski is trying to cover there?

[CSharp]

What's missing on this team at this time of the year is grit and some heavy bodies. This team cannot go toe to toe with a big heavy team in the playoffs.

[Scary Eloranta]

Originally Posted by CSharp

What's missing on this team at this time of the year is grit and some heavy bodies. This team cannot go toe to toe with a big heavy team in the playoffs.

My thoughts exactly. Flames are too easy to push around, we have some very soft players that seem to be running out of gas.


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[taxbuster]

Just an interesting query for those saying the Flames have "punched their ticket" and are not too worried about the crappy play of late.

Tampa punched their ticket a LONG time ago. They're still playing well.

What's the difference (other than talent)?

[Robbob]

I think people may be reading too much into the last couple games. I think Burke in the morning had a good analogy. The last couple games the Flames have been playing poker with $5 buy in, while a team like Dallas its $500. Looking at the standing, except for TB, all the teams that have clinched are sporting similar 6 wins in their last 10. If SJ beats CHI tonight, I would expect the Flames to be more invested in the Friday game against Anaheim.

Worst case scenario for the Flames is that they head into SJ on Sunday with a 2 point lead. Even if they do that and lose to SJ, they are tied in points but still have the ROW advantage.

[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

The CP crucifixion knows no bounds. Being on the ice for a goal against doesn't make you responsible. On what planet is Brodie remotely a "big" part of the second goal against?


He touched the puck early in the shift made a pretty corral-able pass to Hanifin that Hanifin gets 999/1000 times:


that just slipped under Hanifin's stick by a hair Now if you're blaming that hairline error play as the reason we were scored on, I don't know what to say. Especially with everything that happens after.

That "pretty corral-able pass" should have been "Just clear it out - off the glass or up a clear lane."

If Brodie had just done that when he had the puck then no goal. He chose to try to make an in-zone pass. At that point, yes, he is out of the play and not responsible.

He tired to make something out of nothing rather than ice the puck.

[The Boy Wonder]

Worst case scenario for the flames is they continue to play GG hockey like the last two games, and revert to their bad habits.

Even if they win the division, they won't be making it out of the pacific without figuring out how to slightly tweak their regular season play (lets say up until ASG) to handle a heavier game.

It seems like once the whistles go away the flames aren't gritty enough to get the space they need out there. Major concern

[TheIronMaiden]

On the bright side, after a loss the Flames are less likely to meet Dallas in the playoffs.