Toyota developing blood alcohol sensor in steering wheels

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by calculoso

The car will start regardless, but will slow down and eventually stop if it detects alcohol.

Does anyone else see a big problem with this?

I know this system will save lives, but will it cause problems too?

How far do we have to go for "good" technology to protect us from ourselves? Will they have cars tell us we're too tired to drive? Falling asleep at the wheel is 2nd (1st?) in highway deaths. Maybe they'll have something to shut down your vehicle when you have road rage?

I'm not a conspiracist, but you do have to wonder how far technology goes to save us from ourselves.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by calculoso

I disagree entirely.

The car will start regardless, but will slow down and eventually stop if it detects alcohol. This presumes innocence and only reacts when it detects "guilt"... which is exactly how our system works.

That will be lots of fun if the driver don't make it across say, the railroad tracks.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

That will be lots of fun if the driver don't make it across say, the railroad tracks.

or an off-ramp

[SoulOfTheFlame]

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[ericschand]

Originally Posted by SoulOfTheFlame

*movie preview announcer voice*

A thousand years in the making.... From Yubatsu Corperation, the incredible Toyota Blood-Alcohol sensor defeater..... The GLOVE.

Oh, I thought you were going to go OJ on 'em...

[SoulOfTheFlame]

Who says i'm not?

Originally Posted by Looger

Bent Wookie, looks to me like you're really out to prove a point here.

why don't you send me a pm and keep your vitriol off the forum?

maybe you'd like to meet me by the bikerack at 3:15?

exactly what level of childish behaviour am i dealing with here?

Interesting way to react when its clear you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

You obviously don't think you deserved the 24 hour suspension but obviously you displayed some indictia, regardless of the roadside read out to lead the cop to believe that you should not be driving. What you have to understand is that police, in that situation, have a responsiblity to ensure everyone else on that road will not be hit, killed, etc by someone they suspect has had a few drinks. It wasn't a conspiracy. It wasn't the man coming down on you.

I thought I presented the case quite well. What exactly was childish about it?

[Looger]

Originally Posted by Bent Wookie

Interesting way to react when its clear you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

you're the one that started with the childish behaviour and insults man. go back and read the posts, it's quite sad.

Originally Posted by Bent Wookie

You obviously don't think you deserved the 24 hour suspension but obviously you displayed some indictia, regardless of the roadside read out to lead the cop to believe that you should not be driving. What you have to understand is that police, in that situation, have a responsiblity to ensure everyone else on that road will not be hit, killed, etc by someone they suspect has had a few drinks. It wasn't a conspiracy. It wasn't the man coming down on you.

these things happen, cops overreact. sucks.

it's your statements that are ridiculous here. the traffic code etc. means crap to many cops, it's quite ugly.

in BC i also had my car towed for not having insurance, the cop was simply misreading my alberta insurance papers. i showed up to court and the judge was snowed out, cop there said it was all ok, i got into flack later for not showing up, had to go through all kinds of loops.

you should take a big bite out a sandwich of reality before you accuse me of thinking everything's 'a conspiracy' against me.

Originally Posted by Bent Wookie

I thought I presented the case quite well. What exactly was childish about it?

your posts, your language, your tone.

i'm out of this thread, i'm done. go chase me around another one with your bull**** please.

Originally Posted by Looger

you're the one that started with the childish behaviour and insults man. go back and read the posts, it's quite sad.

these things happen, cops overreact. sucks.

it's your statements that are ridiculous here. the traffic code etc. means crap to many cops, it's quite ugly.

in BC i also had my car towed for not having insurance, the cop was simply misreading my alberta insurance papers. i showed up to court and the judge was snowed out, cop there said it was all ok, i got into flack later for not showing up, had to go through all kinds of loops.

you should take a big bite out a sandwich of reality before you accuse me of thinking everything's 'a conspiracy' against me.

your posts, your language, your tone.

i'm out of this thread, i'm done. go chase me around another one with your bull**** please.

Haha... you don't like be called out do you... having to explain yourself.

The traffic code? What is that?

It's very clear that its like the wild west out there... cops totally disregard things such as municipal bylaws, provinicial statutes and something called the Criminal Code... happens all the time.

[ken0042]

OK guys. Let's debate the issues without the name calling.

We are all adults here, and this is obviously a sensitive topic. There have been a lot of good points, let's keep the discussion rolling.

[Flash Walken]

You're right wookie, I'm sure police never overreact or abuse their powers about anything.

Now, where in that traffic code is the section on starlight tours...

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

You're right wookie, I'm sure police never overreact or abuse their powers about anything.

Now, where in that traffic code is the section on starlight tours...

As long as the cops weren't drinking and driving, it's all cool.

[jolinar of malkshor]

This would not only save lives of people that get hit by drunk drivers.....it would save a few people from getting DUI convictions. Hell....I dealt with a guy a few years back that had 15 DUI conviction.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

This would not only save lives of people that get hit by drunk drivers.....it would save a few people from getting DUI convictions. Hell....I dealt with a guy a few years back that had 15 DUI conviction.

15 dui's isn't a failure of enforcement, it's a failure of the judicial system.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

15 dui's isn't a failure of enforcement, it's a failure of the judicial system.

???? WHAT???? Where did I say it was a failure of enforcement...

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

This would not only save lives of people that get hit by drunk drivers.....it would save a few people from getting DUI convictions. Hell....I dealt with a guy a few years back that had 15 DUI conviction.

I can see it being useful for someone with a drinking problem, but not to put it on every car. There will be a lot of inventions coming down the pipe that have the ability to invade our rights. It's best to keep on guard and not accept everyone of them just because we can and seem cool.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I can see it being useful for someone with a drinking problem, but not to put it on every car. There will be a lot of inventions coming down the pipe that have the ability to invade our rights. It's best to keep on guard and not accept everyone of them just because we can and seem cool.

I am all in favour of individual rights....but many people are forgeting that driving is a privledge not a right.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

I am all in favour of individual rights....but many people are forgeting that driving is a privledge not a right.

and that gives any and all restrictions a carte blanche. Not in my world.

and in our society, I'm not admitting it isn't a right.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

and that gives any and all restrictions a carte blanche. Not in my world.

and in our society, I'm not admitting it isn't a right.

How can it be a right? If it was a right, you wouldn't need a licence, you couldn't loose it for failing to comply with laws, you couldn't loose it for poor health.

It is not a right as much as we all wish it was, including myself.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

???? WHAT???? Where did I say it was a failure of enforcement...

You didn't, but this is what this technology is, enforcement.