Alberta Politics Thread v2

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Lets not pretend this isn't planned. They want to make sure as many students are still around and will promote heavily for them to get out and vote.

I'm sure it is planned. In the case of my kids it might backfire as this would actually be a disincentive to vote. But for most having them still at school and relatively captured in terms of where they are is probably an advantage for the NDP.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

I just realized that the election is right in the middle of university exam time. This will be both my kids first election, they are quite excited about it. However both are scheduled to write exams that day and the next so I don't know how they will feel about taking time out to go vote. Even if it is minimal it will still be 30-45 minutes of valuable time for them and this is mirrored for tens of thousands of students across the province. I'll encourage them to vote in the advance polls if the times work. I recall seeing the rules have changed and you can vote at any advance polling station rather than the designated one in your riding. Hopefully that is the case and hopefully the Universities will have stations set up to make it easier for students to vote.

Send them to the advance polls for sure. They run for five days and you can vote at any of them this time around. You don't have to go to a specific polling station.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by RyZ

My twitter feed is full of "Support Notley or you are a racist" type of comments.

This is going to be an awful, awful 6 weeks up to election day.

Guess my friends and family will have to come to grips with my overt racism then.

I want to see the NDP's "budget"

[KTrain]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

not a good picture.

why are kids front and center at an announcement?

Why not?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Guess my friends and family will have to come to grips with my overt racism then.

I want to see the NDP's "budget"

[crazy_eoj]

This is the NDP Alberta.

Vote for us or you are a white supremacist/racist/bigot etc.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Wiggum_PI

Lol, there it is the "you're a terrible person if you vote for Kenney!" response. I am gonna vote for Kenney, because 4 more years of Notley would be devastating. Last election everyone just voted to get rid of the PCs so I'm voting just to get rid of the NDP.

Voting to "get rid" of a party is a completely irrational way to cast your vote and even more so when the alternative is an overtly dirty, potentially criminal leader with serious skeletons in his closet. Vote for the representative that best reflects your views and your riding.

Until there is turnover on the Federal front later this year, this province won't see any substantial changes to its economy and the worst possible outcome for Alberta would be Kenney getting all the credit for that should he be elected.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by KTrain

Why not?

cause they cant vote?

i don't take anything seriously if kids are there, protests, rallies, announcements.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

cause they cant vote?

i don't take anything seriously if kids are there, protests, rallies, announcements.

They’re with their parents...

Kids can’t attend a rally/announcement because they can’t vote? What?

It literally happens almost every time:
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/mobile/j...aign-1.3524674

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by FiftyBelow

Economically and socially, UCP policies would align most with my values and policy leanings. I have no doubt that the UCP will deliver here. However, I'm very concerned about the dirty and potentially illegal tactics that Kenney is accused of. How does one balance the different ethical and moral considerations? That is, taking into account the ethical and moral implications of policy choices, campaign strategies, leadership, tactics, all of it.... How are they prioritized and balanced when making a decision of support? Obviously, no candidate is perfect. I'm really struggling with this as I was ready to jump wholeheartedly into this election. Now, I'm unsure who to support.

I don't buy it, no one outside of Macleans has brought forth any relevant information on that item, and there is no money trail even put forth by them. Its an unsubstantiated rumor, i'd put out about equal with the comments about Brian Jean forming a new party.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

They’re with their parents...

Kids can’t attend a rally/announcement because they can’t vote? What?

It literally happens almost every time:
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/mobile/j...aign-1.3524674

They are front and center holding signs.

It's stupid when Kenney does it too.

[Wiggum_PI]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Voting to "get rid" of a party is a completely irrational way to cast your vote and even more so when the alternative is an overtly dirty, potentially criminal leader with serious skeletons in his closet. Vote for the representative that best reflects your views and your riding.

Until there is turnover on the Federal front later this year, this province won't see any substantial changes to its economy and the worst possible outcome for Alberta would be Kenney getting all the credit for that should he be elected.

The Left voted to get rid of the PCs and Stephen Harper the last two elections, so its time to balance that out this time around.

Why is it acceptable to vote to get rid of right wing politicians but not left wing ones?

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

They’re with their parents...

Kids can’t attend a rally/announcement because they can’t vote? What?

It is just somewhat comical to see children of that age holding signs that they understand nothing about. The one child behing held by her mom is normal but to have kids strategically placed to hold signs front row just to look good made it look silly.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

I don't buy it, no one outside of Macleans has brought forth any relevant information on that item, and there is no money trail even put forth by them. Its an unsubstantiated rumor, i'd put out about equal with the comments about Brian Jean forming a new party.

I guess that's one viewpoint. Macleans didn't just magically come to their conclusions and write an article though, they have evidence and quite a detailed account of what took place. The money trail doesn't flow right to Jason Kenney, but to suggest that there is no relevant information at all seems wrong.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Travis Munroe

It is just somewhat comical to see children of that age holding signs that they understand nothing about. The one child behing held by her mom is normal but to have kids strategically placed to hold signs front row just to look good made it look silly.

Sure, it just happens with literally every party, in every race.

It’d be akin to posting a picture of a leader behind a podium and saying “why is there a podium there?”

Geeze, I dunno, really weird guys.

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Slava

I guess that's one viewpoint. Macleans didn't just magically come to their conclusions and write an article though, they have evidence and quite a detailed account of what took place. The money trail doesn't flow right to Jason Kenney, but to suggest that there is no relevant information at all seems wrong.

It doesn't seem like there's any indication that Kenney was involved in the money trail at all.

Everything I've seen and read points to Cam Davies. He's the one under investigation by the RCMP. He's the one who placed corporate money in the accounts of individuals to finance his candidate.

The Macleans article explicitly says

There is no evidence that Jason Kenney or his team played any role in facilitating the payment of Callaway’s entry fee.

So what are you seeing that's different?

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Sure, it just happens with literally every party, in every race.

It’d be akin to posting a picture of a leader behind a podium and saying “why is there a podium there?”

Geeze, I dunno, really weird guys.

I never said anything about any specific party... was completely open to saying I just find any politicians use of children for a public image entertaining.

[Ozy_Flame]

This is no different than politicians kissing babies back in the day. I can't believe people have issues with kids at these things. Happens all the time. For gosh sakes, families volunteer to help election campaigns. Like every election.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Travis Munroe

I never said anything about any specific party... was completely open to saying I just find any politicians use of children for a public image entertaining.

At least kissing babies is mostly an American thing.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

It doesn't seem like there's any indication that Kenney was involved in the money trail at all.

Everything I've seen and read points to Cam Davies. He's the one under investigation by the RCMP. He's the one who placed corporate money in the accounts of individuals to finance his candidate.

The Macleans article explicitly says

So what are you seeing that's different?

I guess nothing considering that I said right in my post that the money trail doesn't appear to lead right to Jason Kenney. But I wouldn't call that entire debacle and what we've seen thus far as no relevant information.