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Old 01-16-2019, 11:32 AM   #21
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After the trailer what is everyone expecting Spider-Man to make? I'm thinking around $350-$400 million minimum up to $500 million max.
Asia seems love anything Spiderman related. With increased Chinese markets, this should hit 1 billion. Relatively easy. Even Vernon, which had a narrower target audience, brought in almost 900 million, including about 650 foreign.
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:03 PM   #22
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Would rather see actual tickets sold and/or number of viewings (ie butts in seats) rather than revenue/box office as a measurement of how successful the movie is.
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Would rather see actual tickets sold and/or number of viewings (ie butts in seats) rather than revenue/box office as a measurement of how successful the movie is.
For domestic box office mojo has their average ticket price for a movie, while not perfect as it doesnít account for differences between movies for IMAX vs regular viewings it is a proxy for butts in seats.

So year of year you just adjust for the change in average ticket price. This is reflected in the box office mojo adjusted for inflation list.

What that approach doesnít account for is degree of difficulty in capturing a fractured markets attention. Less people go to the movies now than previously in terms of raw tickets sold so a better metric might be % of that years total box office if you are trying to maesure a movies impact on culture.
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:57 AM   #24
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I just saw Lego Movie 2 and I must say it was really good. Does anyone have any ideas as to why it's doing so poor at the box office? Maybe people are sick of Lego movies, but I thought the first one and Lego Batman were both good. If the foreign box office doesn't do well this may be the last Lego movie for a long time.
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Old 02-17-2019, 08:56 AM   #25
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I just saw Lego Movie 2 and I must say it was really good. Does anyone have any ideas as to why it's doing so poor at the box office? Maybe people are sick of Lego movies, but I thought the first one and Lego Batman were both good. If the foreign box office doesn't do well this may be the last Lego movie for a long time.
I think the media budget was pretty small for it. It definitely lacked advertising. Itís also dumped into the worst month for movies so I expect it didnít test well.
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:29 AM   #26
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I think LEGO as a brand as kind of reached a saturation point. There's just been too much of it everywhere -- beyond just the actual LEGO itself, there's video games, shows, books, other toys... a movie is not exciting or a novelty anymore, it's just another LEGO thing.
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:12 AM   #27
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So it appears Alita: Battle Angel is not going to be the box office bomb many were predicting. The movie made the wise decision to move from December to get away from Aquaman, Bumblebee and Mary Poppins Returns. It has currently made $140 mill with it yet to open in China. Initial estimates has it opening to over $50 mill in China, so should do really well there.
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I just saw Lego Movie 2 and I must say it was really good. Does anyone have any ideas as to why it's doing so poor at the box office? Maybe people are sick of Lego movies, but I thought the first one and Lego Batman were both good. If the foreign box office doesn't do well this may be the last Lego movie for a long time.
I agree, it was far better than I was expecting. I quite enjoyed the first lego movie but Batman and Ninjago broke me and I definitely went into Lego Movie 2 dragging my heals. I have to imagine that plays a big role.
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LEGO 2 just ins't doing it for me, and I cant really put my finger on why. The first was terrific, I'm one of those 30-somethings who still buys LEGO all for himself, but no interest in this one.
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My kids love legos but not interested in seeing this movie. We were recently in Legoland too where this movie was heavily promoted but my kids were indifferent to it. We saw Ninjago at the theatres (I fell asleep) and my kids have never asked to see that movie again, unlike other recent movies like Despicable Me 3, Incredibles 2, etc. Seems like something is missing in the sauce.
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So CM had a pretty amazing opening weekend. Here is a quick summary...

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...this will be a summation of the various weekend box office records and milestones achieved or broken by Walt Disney and Marvelís Captain Marvel. The Brie Larson/Samuel L. Jackson/Reggie the Cat sci-fi adventure opened with a best-case-scenario launch of (as of this writing) $153 million domestic, $89m in China and $455m globally over its first few days.

Considering that (for example) Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was infamously frontloaded and still earned $873 million worldwide from a $422m global launch, itís safe to presume that the MCUís 21st movie is going to be its fifth $1 billion-plus earner and its second ďnot an Avengers movieĒ $1b-plus hit. But thatís for another day.
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The 57th-biggest comic book movie and 58th-biggest superhero movie in North America

39th-biggest comic book superhero movie worldwide

18th-biggest opening weekend of all-time

Ninth-biggest comic book superhero debut of all-time

Sixth-biggest domestic debut for a female-led movie

Fourth-biggest superhero launch ever in China

Fourth-biggest domestic opening for a Samuel L. Jackson movie

Fourth-biggest pre-summer debut ever

Fourth-biggest (or third-biggest) domestic debut for a non-sequel

Biggest IMAX global launch for a non-sequel

Biggest opening weekend for a female-directed feature

Biggest domestic debut for a female-led comic book superhero movie

Biggest overseas debut for a female-led movie

Biggest worldwide debut for a female-fronted movie

Biggest opening weekend for a movie starring a cat
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So CM had a pretty amazing opening weekend. Here is a quick summary...



And where CM currently sits among box office records and milestones...



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While I thought the film was just okay, these results are amazing to see!! I don't think we can ever doubt MCU or be surprised by the results going forward.
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I was kind of hoping that Captain Marvel would flop so studios could ramp down on the comic book movies. I know I'm guilty by association but this generation of films is not going to be looked at kindly in history.
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I was kind of hoping that Captain Marvel would flop so studios could ramp down on the comic book movies. I know I'm guilty by association but this generation of films is not going to be looked at kindly in history.
Think this one was going to be a success if only because it's kind of required viewing in advance of End Game.

I do think we could see some Super Hero fatigue after end game though.

Will be interesting to see how Dark Phoenix, and Spider-Man do this summer, because even as somebody who really likes super hero movies I'm just not that interested in them with most of the focus being on End Game.
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I was kind of hoping that Captain Marvel would flop so studios could ramp down on the comic book movies. I know I'm guilty by association but this generation of films is not going to be looked at kindly in history.
I dont know about that, History is written by the victors and at the moment Superhero movies are kicking ass, taking names and printing money, when the history books are written they'll likely be in comic-book format.
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I was kind of hoping that Captain Marvel would flop so studios could ramp down on the comic book movies. I know I'm guilty by association but this generation of films is not going to be looked at kindly in history.
With home theater as fantastic as it is, it makes more sense for people to attend pure action movies in the theater. It's basically part movie experience and part amusement ride at this point.

I agree though, in terms of storylines many of these movies are trash. That's not really what you're paying for with these films at this point.
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I was kind of hoping that Captain Marvel would flop so studios could ramp down on the comic book movies. I know I'm guilty by association but this generation of films is not going to be looked at kindly in history.
If anything I think once it's capped off history will look back on the MCU as even more impressive. I get that many people don't like the genre, and that's completely acceptable. But to ignore that in 10 years they created 22 movies that fit together coherently and it wasn't a total disaster is almost unbelievable. The only thing I can even compare it to is the Bond universe where the movies aren't all interwoven, it's taken 57 years to make 26 of them, and there's still plenty of garbage films in there.
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If anything I think once it's capped off history will look back on the MCU as even more impressive. I get that many people don't like the genre, and that's completely acceptable. But to ignore that in 10 years they created 22 movies that fit together coherently and it wasn't a total disaster is almost unbelievable. The only thing I can even compare it to is the Bond universe where the movies aren't all interwoven, it's taken 57 years to make 26 of them, and there's still plenty of garbage films in there.
What's your measuring stick? Star Wars? The nicest thing I can say is that the studios were handed a winning formula from the comics and all they had to do was not mess it up. These movies to me are more like big budget video games, designed, and engineered to cater to the masses rather than crafted movies.
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These movies to me are more like big budget video games, designed, and engineered to cater to the masses rather than crafted movies.
To me, they are both.
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