[News] UPD: Flames recall Quine. Assign Lazar to Stockton.

[DeluxeMoustache]

It’s a pretty obvious double standard in how things were looked at.

If you are agitated or bothered, relax man, I’m just poking a wee bit of fun.

Team performance - you are considering the full season body of work, downplaying the importance of a significant block of recent games, and including discussion of how a 6 GA loss was significantly due to circumstance.

Goalies - you spent a lot of energy relying on inclusion of stats from a 6 goal against game, saying that the stats say the goalie should have been better, included the data from that game within a chunk of data selected from a certain date onwards.

So Calgary was the better team than Toronto, losing 6-2. When Tampa destroyed Calgary on the ice, and won 6-1, the goalie wasn’t as good as he should have been. Because.. sv%.

Those are your opinions.

That is kind of funny, and if you truly don’t see that there is a parallel, well, I can’t help you.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

It’s a pretty obvious double standard in how things were looked at.

If you are agitated or bothered, relax man, I’m just poking a wee bit of fun.

Team performance - you are considering the full season body of work, downplaying the importance of a significant block of recent games, and including discussion of how a 6 GA loss was significantly due to circumstance.

Goalies - you spent a lot of energy relying on inclusion of stats from a 6 goal against game, saying that the stats say the goalie should have been better, included the data from that game within a chunk of data selected from a certain date onwards.

So Calgary was the better team than Toronto, losing 6-2. When Tampa destroyed Calgary on the ice, and won 6-1, the goalie wasn’t as good as he should have been. Because.. sv%.

Those are your opinions.

That is kind of funny, and if you truly don’t see that there is a parallel, well, I can’t help you.

For sure they're my opinions, just as your view of a double standard is yours.

It isn't.

I'm not agitated at all. You can drag your witch hunt forward for weeks if you want.

I don't find this all that funny though, but then I guess you're more of a laughing out loud eye roller with a ticklish funny bone.

Don't need your help.

The team as a whole played better in those four games than their record suggests. Rittich gave up six goals in a game, I never said that some of them aren't tough to stop, not once. I would agree. But I called the guy average (not bad, not terrible, not his fault) in a game story and you basically wanted a retraction in a game that he gave up six.

Ok maybe I am eye rolling a bit ...

[dino7c]

So about that Lazar in for Frolik idea....

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by dino7c

So about that Lazar in for Frolik idea....

Meh I like to see that from Frolik for the rest of the season and in the playoffs. Not expecting a point every game just that consistent effort.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by dino7c

So about that Lazar in for Frolik idea....

This is why some people coach NHL hockey and some post on internet message boards.

[GioforPM]

I agree Lazar would have checked in except Mangiapane started to bring it, and Czarnik had a hot streak. I also wonder if Peters didn't really like Lazar in practice or something (which doesn't sound like Lazar but who knows).

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I agree Lazar would have checked in except Mangiapane started to bring it, and Czarnik had a hot streak. I also wonder if Peters didn't really like Lazar in practice or something (which doesn't sound like Lazar but who knows).

More likely that Lazar just isn’t an NHL player, despite his own opinion.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

More likely that Lazar just isn’t an NHL player, despite his own opinion.

Not confident enough.

[FlamesAddiction]

I just don't think Lazar has the goods overall.

245 NHL games is a fairly large sample size to draw from. It's time to let this one go.

He's like a modern day Blake Sloan. You want to root for the guy because he works hard and seems like a good guy, but he doesn't have the hands to contribute much, if anything of consequence to an NHL roster.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I agree Lazar would have checked in except Mangiapane started to bring it, and Czarnik had a hot streak. I also wonder if Peters didn't really like Lazar in practice or something (which doesn't sound like Lazar but who knows).

Agreed. Lazar is not a top 6 player, and the bottom 6 has been very good while the top line works through their funk.

Who would come out, that replaced with Lazar, gives the team a better chance to win?

[Caboose]

Wouldn't Lazar have been paid more for being up at the NHL level for a bit? Even though he didn't draw into a game, that in itself is recognition for his work in the AHL this year.

"Thanks for the hard work, here's a possible chance of drawing in if someone goes down, and also a nice little payday."

I'm sure he doesn't mind if that's the case.

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[1qqaaz]

Quine definitely deserves the call up.

He was great in last call up, and he's been outstanding in the AHL.
I think Quine is simply a better player than Lazar in almost every regard that matters.

But he's no so good that I'd be against the Flames sitting him with some frequency.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Caboose

Wouldn't Lazar have been paid more for being up at the NHL level for a bit? Even though he didn't draw into a game, that in itself is recognition for his work in the AHL this year.

"Thanks for the hard work, here's a possible chance of drawing in if someone goes down, and also a nice little payday."

I'm sure he doesn't mind if that's the case.

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Lazar is on a 1-way deal so he is getting paid the same no matter where he plays.

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Lazar is on a 1-way deal so he is getting paid the same no matter where he plays.

Actually paid less. Has to pay escrow in the NHL. No escrow in the AHL

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

Actually paid less. Has to pay escrow in the NHL. No escrow in the AHL

Haha tueche.

[Caboose]

I see I see. I suppose there was a chance he'd see a game in case of injury, but never got the opportunity. If he really finishes out this AHL season strong, there may be a chance for him yet in the NHL, but I'm starting to doubt it'll be with the Flames.

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[Angelino]

Excited for Primetime Quine!

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

Actually paid less. Has to pay escrow in the NHL. No escrow in the AHL

But higher taxes in California

[djsFlames]

Stoked for Quine. He looks to be moving into Czarnik territory for NHL readiness.

52 points in 41 games on the farm and 4 in 9 games in his recent stint here.

[TheIronMaiden]

An interesting dynamic in regards to Quine is that he has played 10 play off games. scoring 1 goal and having 4 assists.

That isn't substantial experience. But with a group like the Flames every little bit counts.