Treliving calls Valimaki to assure him he is untouchable in trade

[transplant99]

“We talked about everything — that they got a lot of phone calls and he had to talk about me a lot,” Valimaki revealed of Tuesday’s yak with Treliving. “Nothing too specific, but we had a couple-minute chat and he said that my future is here. That’s what they want, and that’s what I want.

“Knowing a little bit about the business already, I don’t think it’s that common that GMs call to players, so I really appreciate it and I told him it means a lot to hear this stuff straight from him. Obviously, you hear a lot of stuff — you talk to your agent, you talk to a lot of different people — but when you actually hear stuff from straight up top, that means a lot.”

The 20-year-old defenceman, Treliving had to tell several of his counterparts, is untouchable.

“It meant a lot to hear they weren’t willing to give me up for any price and obviously you really appreciate and respect that as a player,” Valimaki said. “For me, that also gives me confidence, gives me extra motivation to show them that they’re right. You know, to just put in a little extra work — if you can even do that — to show everyone they made the right decision and I’m worth that.”

“Lots of real smart guys like you write stuff that maybe Juuso is in these talks,” Treliving teased. “I just told him that our No. 1 objective was to add to our team — and we did that with Oscar (Fantenberg) — but on some of the bigger stuff, the only way we get into those talks was with him going in there, and he’s not going anywhere.

“He’s going to be a big part of this team. I think he is going to be a part of the team now. He’s going to be a part of the team in the future. I’m not putting him on the plank, and I just wanted him to hear that.

https://calgarysun.com/sports/hockey...ay-untouchable

[bc-chris]

was it a confirmed phone call or did Treliving use skyp?

[Reggie Dunlop]

Treliving should probably just answer his phone by saying "Valimaki's not available."

[flames_fan_down_under]

Wrong thread!

[Maritime Q-Scout]

I've said for eons, championships in sport are NOT won and lost on the ice (or field or whatever playing surface).

Championships are won in the front office.

It's too down. If your people at the top are winners, then that gives the players the freedom to be winners.

This is just one of a plethora of examples of how Treliving is a champion.

[browna]

That kind of straight to the point honesty and directness with players (and agents) is what Darryl Sutter as coach, and especially as GM, brought credibility back to the franchise. That straightforward approach landed free agents here for the first time ina long time in the late 00’s, as most players and agents who are worth anything, prefer to deal direct like that, and know where they stand.

Especially now with so many so called insiders and agents looking to use the social media age and use the insiders who do have a media voice to try and gain leverage and start rumors, and some GMs have resorted to the same tactics in reciprocation, the fact that Treliving, like Sutter, plays his cards close to his best, and takes care of the players on his team with phone calls like this, plays out well both short term and long term, as players and potential players feel they can trust their GM to deal straight up with them at all times.

When the Flames owners got sold a bill of goods by the guy to the guy who’s whole strategy for for the job was ”I’ll do the opposite from what Darryl did”, which is what they wanted to hear if ever so briefly, they found out very soon, how soon, that the Flames organizational reputation went into the toilet under someone who didn’t have the trust and respect around the league, and conducted business in a trashy way.

Burke brought that reputation back from the brink, and a guy like Treliving and the trust and respect he has gained and builds on, is a excellent person to be building up the way the Flames are perceived when doing buisness with players, agents, and other teams.

[jeffman]

Originally Posted by browna

That kind of straight to the point honesty and directness with players (and agents) is what Darryl Sutter as coach, and especially as GM, brought credibility back to the franchise. That straightforward approach landed free agents here for the first time ina long time in the late 00’s, as most players and agents who are worth anything, prefer to deal direct like that, and know where they stand.

Especially now with so many so called insiders and agents looking to use the social media age and use the insiders who do have a media voice to try and gain leverage and start rumors, and some GMs have resorted to the same tactics in reciprocation, the fact that Treliving, like Sutter, plays his cards close to his best, and takes care of the players on his team with phone calls like this, plays out well both short term and long term, as players and potential players feel they can trust their GM to deal straight up with them at all times.

When the Flames owners got sold a bill of goods by the guy to the guy who’s whole strategy for for the job was ”I’ll do the opposite from what Darryl did”, which is what they wanted to hear if ever so briefly, they found out very soon, how soon, that the Flames organizational reputation went into the toilet under someone who didn’t have the trust and respect around the league, and conducted business in a trashy way.

Burke brought that reputation back from the brink, and a guy like Treliving and the trust and respect he has gained and builds on, is a excellent person to be building up the way the Flames are perceived when doing buisness with players, agents, and other teams.

In what way did Feaster conduct business in a trashy way

[SebC]

Nobody should be untouchable.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by SebC

Nobody should be untouchable.

With all the media yacking there's nothing wrong with putting the kids mind at ease that he's wanted.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by jeffman

In what way did Feaster conduct business in a trashy way

I personally feel that Feaster accomplished some good things in his time as Flames GM to counter some of the bad stuff but it was mentioned that around the league there was a feeling Weisbrod and Feaster operated in an "we are smarter than everyone else" manner that rubbed some teams the wrong way. I don't think it's any coincidence Feaster hasn't had a sniff in the NHL since.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

This is just one of a plethora of examples of how Treliving is a champion.

Champion? Love Tre, but he ain't won jack... yet

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Champion? Love Tre, but he ain't won jack... yet

The Jack is awarded to Coaches....

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by SebC

Nobody should be untouchable.

I think you're missing the point.

At what teams are most likely to offer, Valimaki is untouchable. If they go crazy, then sure, there's a point at which you'd make a trade. But I doubt that's what was going on.

[Flamenspiel]

I think its that they feel that Valimaki will eventually replace Gio as the #1 defensemen. How do you qualify that? Very difficult to acquire and not readily available.

I am not sure he makes that same call to anyone else in the organization.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by the2bears

I think you're missing the point.

At what teams are most likely to offer, Valimaki is untouchable. If they go crazy, then sure, there's a point at which you'd make a trade. But I doubt that's what was going on.

Exactly. Stone for Valimaki is a huge, huge win for Ottawa. Not even close to a balanced trade.

[ricardodw]

Did he have the same conversation with Dube? Bennett? Mangipane? Anderssen? Kylington?

All young guys that have been Flames since draft day and hopefully would like to continue their careers with the Flames.

Or were these guys considered strong enough mentally to deal with the fact that hockey is a business.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Did he have the same conversation with Dube? Bennett? Mangipane? Anderssen? Kylington

All young guys that have been Flames since draft day and hopefully would like to continue their careers with the Flames.

Or were these guys considered strong enough mentally to deal with the fact that hockey is a business.

No...because none of those have the same ceiling that Valimaki does in BT's mind and very likely were available in the right deal, where JV was not.

What is so hard to grasp about this?

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by transplant99

No...because none of those have the same ceiling that Valimaki does in BT's mind and very likely were available in the right deal, where JV was not.

What is so hard to grasp about this?

Does Valamki have the upside of Dougie Hamilton who also got special treatment?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Does Valamki have the upside of Dougie Hamilton who also got special treatment?

Special treatment?

The kid is playing in the minors fer christ sakes.

What are you talking about?

Do you even know?

And what does "special treatment Hamilton" who WAS TRADED have to do with Juuso Valimaki?

[timbit]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Does Valamki have the upside of Dougie Hamilton who also got special treatment?

Outside of the trade speculation and rumors thread , regarding trade deadline , are you aware of how many posts you made during the Flames recent 7 game winning streak.

I am.

Get lost.