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			1) Who is Jason Staal? 
2) There are no other Staals on the Wild anyway 
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			03-01-2019, 11:55 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  David Struch
					 
				 
				I wonder, could the trade have been bigger than initially reported... Jason Staal & Eric Staal for Michael Frolík & Mark Jankowski/James Neal/Michael Stone/prospect + the high pick (1st/2nd) 
			
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Insert "there are 5 Staal brothers?!" Benning GIF.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-01-2019, 11:55 AM
			
			
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			Now that it has been a few days after the deadline, I am pretty okay with having a first round pick this off-season and all of the prospects. 
 
I still think the Flames can trade TJ Brodie for 1st Round+2nd Round picks. I hope the Flames then draft twice in the first round with the added pick. Then trade Frolik/Neal+2nd+Prospect for Zucker. 
 
At that point, the Flames will have two new first round picks in the system and can easily pick up a star rental next season with the 2020 first round pick.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			03-01-2019, 12:01 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Jiri Hrdina
					 
				 
				But they didn't trade him for a prospect or pick 
It was a straight hockey move. Player for player 
I don't fully understand it but it does seem like they soured on Granlund. But if they had wanted to - they could have traded him and not worry about getting a roster player back. 
			
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Isn’t Fiala a former top 12 pick drafted by Fenton? Obviously they feel he has top two line upside still.
 
Granlund has skill but he also has average size and is fairly soft. I’m not sure I’d want to build around him as a core piece either.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-01-2019, 12:45 PM
			
			
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			Reminiscent of the Brad Stuart signing in Calgary situation. 
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				A major complication in regards to any Zucker trade is Zucker's wife is from/lives in Minnesota and shares(I believe) joint custody of one child with someone from a previous relationship. 
If Zucker is traded I don't think she could/would leave Minnesota on a permanent basis. 
 
Its pro sports but Fenton would likely be damaging his reputation with future players if he did Zucker that dirty 1 year after signing him to an extension.
			
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			03-09-2019, 12:59 PM
			
			
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			Apparently some TSN guys were saying the deal for Alexander Edler was something around Oliver Kylington.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-09-2019, 01:08 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  David Struch
					 
				 
				Apparently some TSN guys were saying the deal for Alexander Edler was something around Oliver Kylington.    
			
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If that’s true, I would sure hope Vancouver was adding-it would not look good on BT to get fleeced by Dim Jim.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-09-2019, 01:40 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  David Struch
					 
				 
				I wonder, could the trade have been bigger than initially reported... Jason Zucker & Eric Staal for Michael Frolík & Mark Jankowski/James Neal/Michael Stone/prospect + the high pick (1st/2nd) 
			
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No. Staal was never getting traded. He included all the top teams on his no trade list because he didn't want to move.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-09-2019, 01:58 PM
			
			
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				Apparently some TSN guys were saying the deal for Alexander Edler was something around Oliver Kylington.    
			
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That sounds awful, and I really like Edler
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-09-2019, 07:57 PM
			
			
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Quinn Hughes expected to sign his ELC with Vancouver this week. Will burn his first year of his ELC. 
If he plays 10 games then he will be eligible for the expansion draft but not believed the Canucks will let this happen. 
 
If Princeton is eliminated tonight 3 college UFAs to watch for, Veronneau and Kuffner from Ottawa and Josh Teves from Calgary 
lots of teams will be interested and lots of Canadian teams will be too including the three playing right now (Leafs, Oilers, and Sens) 
 
Nicholson wants to take time with Oilers GM search 
Despite rumors that Nicholson might move on to international hockey positions, Nicholson says he wants to stay with the Oilers and be part of the Solution. 
 
Bfyuglien suffered a setback and returned back to Winnipeg 
 
Neal skated yesterday for the first time since his injury but still expected to be out 10-14 days more 
 
NHL and NHLPA continue to grind away at the escrow issue in meetings. 
Really trying hard to solve the issue. 
 
 
 
edit: of note Teves and Veronneau did attend Flames development camp in 2017. 
 
However, being reported the Kings are the front runner for Veronneau. 
 
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			03-09-2019, 08:20 PM
			
			
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			I think Teves is a right shooting dman which is even better
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			03-09-2019, 08:20 PM
			
			
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				I think Teves is a right shooting dman which is even better 
			
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he is left shooting as clearly shown in the video AC posted
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-09-2019, 08:21 PM
			
			
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				I think Teves is a right shooting dman which is even better 
			
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His hockeyDB says right, but if you look at the video I posted he's a lefty.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-09-2019, 08:38 PM
			
			
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			Teves looked pretty good in camp, might be something there....
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-09-2019, 08:54 PM
			
			
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				Teves looked pretty good in camp, might be something there.... 
			
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Pulled the thoughts on both players from the 2017 camp thread:
 
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				Josh Teves: played really well. Made a few good breakout passes, didn't get beat. Fluid skater and calm. 
 
Veronneau: has some promising qualities. He skates well even compared to some higher end prospects and has good puck skills. Made a great play during the PP segment where he walked out of the corner and found Kylington alone for a one-timer. 
			
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				Josh Teves  - In my opinion Josh Teves was by far the biggest standout amongst all of the invitees during the scrimmage. He simply controlled the game in all three zones and was willing to jump up into the rush and take the risks necessary to stand out. The puck seems to follow him on the ice and he consistently made the correct choices. He is definitely a player to keep an eye on moving forward. Extremely impressed.  
 
Max Verroneau - Verroneau caught my eye on more than a few shifts. He made a very nice pass on the Kylington goal, and I believe netted the empty netter. Good showing for the invite. 
			
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				76 Teves 
-Good skater, didn't look out of place with the prospects 
 
51 Veronneau 
-Involved in some offensive plays 
-Good skating and shot 
			
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				RW Max Veronneau - Another Ivy League kid, who just completed his second year at Princeton in which he doubled his point total to 35 points (11 goals, 24 assists) in 33 games. There were a lot of players on try-outs and it's a lot to digest but of those 16, the 21-year-old Veronneau was the guy most noticeable for me. Involved in the play, around the net, it was his nice cross-ice feed that set up Kylington's goal. Worth noting is that both Foo and Healey were at Flames development camp a year ago, only to sign this off-season. We'll put his name aside for later.
			
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			03-09-2019, 09:26 PM
			
			
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			Speaking of guys coming out of junior I wouldn't mind us looking at  http://battalionhockey.com/players/7183
Big kid who has put up big numbers on a crappy North Bay team. Seen him quite a bit this year and he has great hands and a good front of the net presence.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-09-2019, 09:40 PM
			
			
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			Which player from North Bay?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-09-2019, 09:41 PM
			
			
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				Which player from North Bay? 
			
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Justin Brazeau, should be the player in the link
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-09-2019, 10:07 PM
			
			
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			My bad. 
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