02-28-2019, 09:30 AM
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#381
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
The trade assets were not finalized. Dorian wanted Valimaki and Treliving said no. Multiple reports that this is what happened.
But based on the fact that they thought they had a deal in place and then it fell apart, that suggests that Dorian changed the ask at the last minute.
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I assumed what happened is that on D-day Vegas threw in their best prospect d-man, which meant that Calgary needed to match or they were gone.
It wasn't so much that Dorian "changed the ask", it was that Calgary was outbid.
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02-28-2019, 09:44 AM
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#382
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
Neither one of us know if the trade pieces were finalized and what they actually were. Maybe it was Anderson + a 1st? Similar to Vegas. Who knows.
Either way, Im glad we don't have a 10M winger till the age of 35
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That is right, neither one of us know. However, there have been several reports and interviews, hinting at what happened.
Lots of talk of Valimaki being the deal breaker, and no talk of Stone having an ask that the Flames didn't like.
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02-28-2019, 09:47 AM
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#383
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Originally Posted by transplant99
So Burke was just on the morning show and stated that an NHL GM told him the ask for Stone from Calgary was..(i think i heard this correctly)
1st
conditional 1st on resigning
Andersson
Valimaki
and it would take 11M per to equal the 9.5 Vegas paid cause of tax differences.
For a freaking winger...not even the best winger in the game.
LOL
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02-28-2019, 09:55 AM
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#384
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I don’t think Tre ever agreed to put Andersson in the deal. Tre has said many times post deadline that he was not trading Andersson or Valimaki; however, he never mentioned Kylington.
Add the Fantenberg acquisition as a left shot defenseman to replace Kylington and it seems to make sense.
I think Flames offer was probably Kylington and the first and maybe Frolik and the Vegas package beat that.
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02-28-2019, 10:23 AM
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#385
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
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I 100% agree!!!! Crazy how well that fits...
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02-28-2019, 10:23 AM
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#386
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
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Ummmm....ok? 
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02-28-2019, 10:28 AM
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#387
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
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Yes I would love some $19.99 Ray-bans!
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02-28-2019, 10:35 AM
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#388
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
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Found what he was trying to say 
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02-28-2019, 11:13 AM
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#389
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattman
Found what he was trying to say |
No it was pretty much "eff off Ottawa. You are drunk."
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02-28-2019, 11:57 AM
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#390
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by 868904
Tre has said many times post deadline that he was not trading Andersson or Valimaki; however, he never mentioned Kylington.
Add the Fantenberg acquisition as a left shot defenseman to replace Kylington and it seems to make sense.
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Plus the "Great Offer" for LD Alexander Edler.
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03-08-2019, 02:12 PM
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#391
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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CapFriendly @CapFriendly
Mark Stone #VegasBorn
8 year / $76M extension ($9.5M AAV)
2019-20: $3M + $9M SB
2020-21: $1M + $7M SB
2021-22: $7M + $5M SB
2022-23: $1M + $7M SB
2023-24: $6M + $5M SB
2024-25: $6M + $5M SB
2025-26: $3M + $5M SB
2026-27: $1M + $5M SB
* Full NMC
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03-08-2019, 02:14 PM
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#392
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Kelowna
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healthy signing bonus, woof
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03-08-2019, 02:16 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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Now that it's on capfriendly, you can see that Vegas has some serious cap issues next year, and that's before they have to re-sign Karlsson.
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03-08-2019, 02:16 PM
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#394
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scornfire
healthy signing bonus, woof
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28M salary, 48M signing bonus
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03-08-2019, 02:19 PM
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#395
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Here
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Mark Stone (8yrs, ~$9.5mil AAV) to Vegas for Erik Brannstrom, Lindberg, 2020 2nd
The last three or four years of that contract might hurt, especially if Stone cannot keep up his awesome play as he gets older
Last edited by ah123; 03-08-2019 at 02:21 PM.
Reason: Brain cannot create comprehensible language on Friday afternoon
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03-08-2019, 02:20 PM
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#396
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Would have been great to have him here, but looking at that deal I feel no sour grapes at all.
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03-08-2019, 02:29 PM
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#397
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Originally Posted by Muffins
Now that it's on capfriendly, you can see that Vegas has some serious cap issues next year, and that's before they have to re-sign Karlsson.
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Not really that dire. Certainly not 'before they have to re-sign Karlsson."
They may want to re-sign Engelland and he'll take pretty much whatever they'll give him (say around a million). Re-sign Subban, who has 30 game experience, for maybe another million.
That's 79M, assuming Haula comes back, with just Karlsson to re-sign.
Is he the 40 goal scorer looking for a long-term contract from last year, or the 20 goal scorer RFA fighting for his contract?
Either way, they should be able to get by for the time being if they move one medium contract in the off-season.
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03-08-2019, 02:33 PM
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#398
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Sweden
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9.5 million for 8 years for Mark Stone.
Mark Stone. Not Evgeni Malkin. Heck, even Toews is taking a LOT of heat for his contract and he’s a Selkewinning, Stanley Cup Champion Centre.
Dzingel, Zucker, Coyle, Zuccharello - that would have been great pick ups. Even Hagelin or Nyquist.
Imagine sending out Valimaki, Dube and a 1st AND THEN pay full Free Agent premium. Wow. The guy is a great player for sure, but holy #### Dorian and Stone are the winners here.
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03-08-2019, 02:40 PM
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#399
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Calgary via Palm Desert
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
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Oh WOW! Thank you for the coupon for 3 FREE large Pizza at Little Caesars to celebrate Little Caesars 60th birthday!!! That was mighty nice of you Johnny Makarov
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03-08-2019, 04:34 PM
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#400
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I would be horrified if the Flames gave him that contract. He's a good player right now but I won't be surprised if his numbers tail off big time in his early 30's.
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