[Rumour] McKenzie: dealbreaker for Flames is that Sens want Valimaki in Stone package

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

What happens if Tkachuk is part of the package to get Stone?

Senator fans wake up for their dream

[dammage79]

The more I think on this the more I don't want it to happen. Felt the same way about the Hamilton trade when we got him though. That didn't turn out half bad once we got Lindholm using Hamilton as trade bait.

[442scotty]

Originally Posted by Phagoof

1st, 1st, Frolik Dube/Kylington

for

Stone signed?

That looks about right because it’s for a signed Stone. Ottawa will go for it but it will all be up to Stone if he wants to play here. And of course why wouldn’t he? It’s a no brainer

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by transplant99

It has to be Gillies...he is on a one way deal starting next year and there simply would be no room to sign another i dont think.

Yeah so we need Smith to take the reins the rest of the way, keeping Rittich cheap for next contract, and then have him immediately become a 60 game quality starter.
Not impossible. Not anything to bank on.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Hoop27

It would go something like hey if you bought a place here would you want to live on 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th street. Oh ok cool and what floor do you want your place on 5-10 etc.

They know it would be tampering when Mark says he'd like to live on 7th Ave and 9th St.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by cracher

Is it really that hard to figure out if he wants to sign? Have his bro send a text?

This could be done and under the table, as bad as it sounds, I mean are they going to search through their text histories? Just takes Conroy having a little friendly phone call with Michael to get the temperature of the water on Mark's end. There wouldn't be any official communication lines between the two sides.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by transplant99

It has to be Gillies...he is on a one way deal starting next year and there simply would be no room to sign another i dont think.

If the price of any deal is having to go with Rittich and Gillies next year, count me as a big no.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by browna

Ryan and Stone don't have value to Ottawa. Neal not trending positively now, Frolik a salary dump. Brodie may be available yes, I'd be surprised if Hamonic was...

Backlund though is intriguing, given his longer term deal. Stones defensive ability will help mitigate that loss, and if the Flames also could get Hayes to fill in a center role....

Yes, I doubt Michael Stone would go to Ottawa if the Flames wanted to sign Mark Stone. Neal has negative value, Ryan is probably pretty close to even.

And if Backlund has a no movement clause, that basically just leaves Frolik and Brodie.

Frolik definitely makes the most sense. But I'm pretty sure the Flames would have to send more money to the Sens in order to re-sign Stone and Tkachuk.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Cap HAS to move even if they land stone. So I'd expect the frolik and brodies to be moved instantly.

Besides, I think bridie goes to Ottawa if they do win the trade.

I suspect you're right, putting Andersson next to Gio the last two games may have been more than just Brodie having a couple of previous brain farts.

[howard_the_duck]

Another sneaky advocate of the Flames could be Curtis Lazar. While he can't be happy playing in the minors (is he up now?), he's been a huge fan of the A Class of the Flames organization.

He used to room with Mark Stone in Ottawa. So, a brother on the Flames, and a good friend in Lazar, seems like he'd get awfully good intel of the class of the Flames organization if he were to decide to re-sign here.

Can't be stated enough how much of a ****show it's been in Ottawa with that ownership group. Coming to Calgary, the stability under the Treliving management regime, and overall family-like atmosphere (re: the Big Ern story last week), a lot of boxes checked for someone like Stone to commit long term I'd think.

[sureLoss]

Dean Molberg @960boomer
Further to last tweet, I can’t imagine Flames would pay big tag on a rental. Would need an extension done as part of a Stone deal. Giving up 1st rounders and prospects on a rental doesn’t seem his style.

[ComixZone]

Well, now I’m getting greedy and want Hayes and Stone. Treliving’s wizardry can make the math work somehow.

[flamesforcup]

I dont think people realise how good Stone is. Surprised posters are saying they wouldnt give up middle tier players for him. He would literally become our 2nd best winger after Gaudreau over night. I for one hope Treliving somehow fits him in.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

I dont think people realise how good Stone is. Surprised posters are saying they wouldnt give up middle tier players for him. He would literally become our 2nd best winger after Gaudreau over night. I for one hope Treliving somehow fits him in.

Yeah people seem to forget he had more Calder votes than Johnny, and deserved them too

[AltaGuy]

If we get Stone, and he is re-signed, I think the eventual plan is that Johnny would be traded before his contract is up. He’ll fetch whatever we give up for Stone++, and will in all likelihood be paid as a top-10 player at his next contract. NJ/Philly/Boston/NYR will all be major players there.

I believe that’s the longterm thinking on Stone.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

If the price of any deal is having to go with Rittich and Gillies next year, count me as a big no.

Well right now...thats exactly what it would have to be....and thats giving Rittich a raise of some substance as he has arb rights as well.

Add in signing Stone for 9 Million a year, Tkachuk at 8 Million a year and you are not only not adding a G of any sort, you are losing at least 2 F off the current roster and without question Brodie...minimum. Also need to sign Bennett, Mangiapane and Hathaway ( or replacement) and replace the guys traded away for picks.

[doublebass]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

What happens if Tkachuk is part of the package to get Stone?

You must mean Brady???

[Two Fivenagame]

So Roger Millions just asked Boomer if a contract extension would have to happen first. Boomer responds with "100%".

How would that work?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Well, now I’m getting greedy and want Hayes and Stone. Treliving’s wizardry can make the math work somehow.

I would be fine with just one but I hope we get one of those 2

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

I dont think people realise how good Stone is. Surprised posters are saying they wouldnt give up middle tier players for him. He would literally become our 2nd best winger after Gaudreau over night. I for one hope Treliving somehow fits him in.

So he has been THAT much better than Lindholm this year?

I don't believe it.