Edmonton is No Good VI: Chia•den•freu•de

[ClubFlames]

"I like the way Michael Nylander negotiates contracts"

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Holy crap. Is Friedman trolling Oilers fans? That is just a laughable idea.

I approve of the comment suggesting Hall might be the real savior, and McJesus merely a false prophet.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

https://twitter.com/user/status/1098072099313184769

They have to be absolutely insane. Both fans and management chased him out of town. I'd say there's a better chance he signs in Calgary than in Edmonton.

It gets better. "Find out if Hall is available" means at the trade deadline. As in, give up picks for him. As in, a first rounder.

And then, yeah. Hope that Hall is willing to re-sign in that market.

[Ashasx]

Post from HF Oilers

Rishaug keeps talking about how the OIlers may have made promises to Pulju and his agent. How we've handled this kid would make a lot more sense if that was the case, wouldn't it? How we kept him on the NHL roster just long enough his first year to burn his RFA year off. How we seem to just keep him around twisting in the wind with no apparent direction. Was this kid promised min 41 games on the NHL roster each season for coming over when he could have made a good salary in Finland by developing there longer? His AHL salary is just 70k/season.

I really would not put it past this team, that has been just brutal at negotiating anything, to make a promise of NHL time to Pulju and his agent 3 years ago. Guess Pulju didn't have to sign the ELC right away. He could have done another year in finland, likely for better than the 70k AHL salary.

[CaptainCrunch]

The cry is slowly rising to let the kid go home to Finland.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

It's frankly getting to a point where you wonder if someone pulls a Lindros on them. "Drafted by Edmonton? Nope. Trade my rights."

If they're in on Hughes, I think there's a good chance that 2019 keeps on giving. I don't know a thing about Hughes' personality, but a kid from Orlando likely isn't wooed by the promise of a great career in the City of Champions.

What'll be even funnier is if this is a lower pick than #1 that's refusing to report

Taylor Hall
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Nail Yakupov
Darnell Nurse
Leon Draisaitl
Connor McDavid
Jesse Puljujarvi
...is a pretty extensive list of warning signs. 0% of those players are enjoying their Edmonton Oilers NHL careers.

You'd have to think it comes sooner rather than later

[Split98]

Originally Posted by New Era

You have to think that the kids at the draft will be telling the Oilers they have no interest in playing for them and not to draft them. I can't remember who, but supposedly some kid told a team that was interest in him, that he had no interest in them, and that team removed him from their draft list as a result. You have to think that kids and agents would want to stay as far away from that dumpster fire as possible.

I wouldn't put it past Oilers management to draft the kid anyway.
"Just wait until you see our sweet facilities!!!!"

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Post from HF Oilers

I don't know where he fits on the roster, and the price would be way too high for a direct EDM-CGY trade... but I really want Puljujarvi in the Flames system.

His hockey IQ is low, but paired with a playmaker I think he has the skills to be pretty effective in a bottom-9 role. He'd definitely need some time in the AHL to learn some very basic facets of the game.

Primarily... I'd love to see a failed Oilers prospect find success with the Flames. Thought the same thing with Yakupov... and there's a never-ending list of possibilities. Puljujarvi, Bear, Yamamoto...

[Johnhitbox]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

I'd have to think agents are training their clients to bomb their interviews with the Oilers.



"What player do you like to model yourself after?"


"Oh I like to think my greatest hockey influences were Mike Comrie, Sheldon Souray, and Chris Pronger's wife."

and Chris Pronger's wife." you deserve an award for that

[sureLoss]

Nicholson reveals that since Glen Sather the Oilers have only looked at one person everytime they needed a new GM.

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...eter-chiarelli

He pointed out that when it comes to hiring GMs, including the hiring of Glen Sather, the Oilers never conducted a wide search for a new GM. “With the Oilers, you go back all the way to Glen Sather, and how many people has this organization interviewed to name a General Manager? Through my research, it’s one person that they looked at…. Obviously it’s a mistake, as a I sit here today.”

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Split98

I don't know where he fits on the roster, and the price would be way too high for a direct EDM-CGY trade... but I really want Puljujarvi in the Flames system.

His hockey IQ is low, but paired with a playmaker I think he has the skills to be pretty effective in a bottom-9 role. He'd definitely need some time in the AHL to learn some very basic facets of the game.

Primarily... I'd love to see a failed Oilers prospect find success with the Flames. Thought the same thing with Yakupov... and there's a never-ending list of possibilities. Puljujarvi, Bear, Yamamoto...

Here is the catch: Puljujarvi has no interest in playing in the AHL, so it seems. He has got some skills and is a big, fast skating kid, but to add to an exceptionally low hockey IQ one can't help but wonder if Puljuhjarvi also harbours a strong sense of entitlement. I would want no part of that.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Nicholson reveals that since Glen Sather the Oilers have only looked at one person everytime they needed a new GM.

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...eter-chiarelli

I mean, no #### Bob.

Oilers GM history after slats:

Lowe 8 years

[shadowlord]

According to Hitchcock, this is the best that the Oilers can play. (TSN Article)

Hitchcock on wild-card race: 'We're playing the best'
https://www.tsn.ca/hitchcock-on-wild...best-1.1260615

“We know we have to go on an a run. Of all the teams around there I feel like our team is playing the best. We’re not winning, but we’re playing the best. Eventually, it’s going to have to translate into wins. You can’t keep living off of, ‘We’re playing well.’ You have to take the next step, but five of the last six games are the best we’ve played in a long time.”

Best hockey = 6 wins in their last 26 games? Yowza.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Here is the catch: Puljujarvi has no interest in playing in the AHL, so it seems. He has got some skills and is a big, fast skating kid, but to add to an exceptionally low hockey IQ one can't help but wonder if Puljuhjarvi also harbours a strong sense of entitlement. I would want no part of that.

Hard pass if what we're seeing in Edmonton is an attitude he wants to carry elsewhere, for sure.

I wonder how much of it is influenced by his situation in Edmonton and doubting the benefit of playing for their AHL team vs developing elsewhere

[CaptainCrunch]

Spoiler!

[Groot]

At best Puljujarvi is Sven Bartschi 2.0.

Entitled offensive player that may have some middling success on a team that lacks depth which forces him into the NHL lineup....

Oh wait, that's the Oilers to a T. Never mind.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

it might happen as early as this year.



With Chia and McDavid, there was a veneer of professionalism that you could point to and say "yeah, it looks like maybe they are turning things around", but now that it's reverted to the bad old days, I can't imagine there is an agent in the league willing to suggest Edmonton is anything but a worst case scenario location for their client to be traded or drafted to.



IMO, we'll see Hitch fired after the deadline, poolparty moved at the deadline, and McDavid moved prior to the draft.

0% chance they do that IMO.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Groot

At best Puljujarvi is Sven Bartschi 2.0.

Entitled offensive player that may have some middling success on a team that lacks depth which forces him into the NHL lineup....

Oh wait, that's the Oilers to a T. Never mind.

I think it's a classic example of the oilers inability to develop players properly.

I don't know if he's a world beater but I think there is a top 9 shooter in there.

This is what I mean when I say agents around the league understand how deadly the oilers organization can be for players to get better and earn bigger money. There is an opportunity cost in going to the oilers.

Put pool party in an environment to help him improve, maybe a place with guys from his neck of the woods, might be worth taking a flyer on for the right organization.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by activeStick

0% chance they do that IMO.

I'm operating on the assumption he wants out.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Nicholson reveals that since Glen Sather the Oilers have only looked at one person everytime they needed a new GM.

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...eter-chiarelli

They just close their eyes and point.