Edmonton is No Good VI: Chia•den•freu•de

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

I'm inclined to disagree.

In 1993 the Cape Breton Oilers won the Calder Cup.

Didn't Wayne Cowley go on to win a Vezina?

Leading scorer in the playoffs, a record that still stands, was future Art Ross and Rocket Richard winner Bill MacDougall.

The VCR line went on to be one of the best in NHL history, Shawn VanAllen, Dan Currie and Stephen Rice.

Didn't Francois Laroux win like a pile of Norris Trophies?

Right?

You can't throw a jersey in The Sad Place without hitting another damn MacDougall jersey

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Well, that was amusing. Here are my notes...

Their delusion is really confusing, but endlessly humorous. It comes immediately to mind whenever I see anything coming out of there, but I'll never understand how the fans are still buying all of this... and lining up for hours to collect signatures of these losers no less.

Expectations 'got away' from them because they wouldn't shut up about it. They parade out any sliver of success they can find to prove they have what it takes, and buy themselves a little more time. As one Oiler fan reminded us in the Arizona ATL, they were pretty braggadocious the first 20 games of this season. "Best start since 1985" they chattered about fresh off their #1 RW Rattie high... and they can't shed themselves of most involved fast enough just a few months later. It couldn't be less geniune coming from this guys mouth.

A strong AHL team means so little unless you're talking about players anyone believes will make an impact on your AHL roster. Look at the captains across the AHL, and you won't see too many familiar names. Most of those teams win by being a team of good AHLers...

The more they talk about Koskinen, the more great content we get for their inevitable parting of ways. It seems like the 'falling from grace' was well on it's way before a pen even touched ink... but they've made sure to put their own stamp on this one so they can't sweep it out with the Chiarelli trash. Since he signed that contract on Jan 21, he's had one game over .900 (.939 in the loss to Pittsburgh). Not only that, but his last decent game was .953 in the Jan 14 win against Buffalo. He's a no-name goalie that was good for a bit, and the group of idiots thought they were the smartest in the room yet again.

I love that this team thinks they're just a few pieces away from challenging teams 20 POINTS ahead of them with 20+ games left. They're staring at that playoff carrot so desperately, they ignore how garbage their team is around them. This weird Western Conference has been great fodder for the Flames, but also a few sparkly pieces to distract Oiler fans (and seemingly management) from the horrible reality that's in front of them.

They are not going to beat the Stars, Blackhawks, or the Canucks. Nor would they stand a chance against the Wild, Ducks, Kings, or the Avalanche if either of them turned their season around in a fashion Edmonton thinks is possible. It's assinine that anyone is absorbing this as reality.

They have not been playing well the last few games... and they are not a few little adjustments from being a good team. Not even close. They're 1-7-2 in their last 10, on a 4 game losing streak and only ahead of the lowly Kings who have rarely played near .500 hockey at any point in the season. This TDL is going to be amazing. This season is a gift.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

That looks like an AHL team roster.

Kassian on the 1st line.
Gagner from the AHL to the 2nd line.
Reider has ZERO goals in 44 games.......is on the 2nd line.

That is just a terrible, terrible roster.

its really stunning, especially for a capped out roster


you would assume looking at a lineup like that for an NHL team that there were 3 or 4 top 9 forwards on IR or something, but as far as I know just a 3 goal guy and a 4 goal guy hurt (which I guess there is top 6)

[brew]

They must be salivating an extra bit with their home stand being all the teams we're softening up the night before

[sun]

Originally Posted by drewtastic

Fan: “We were here since 3 AM”

McDavid: “What?!? Why?!?”

(Raise the banner.)

Hahahah he actually said that, I thought you were joking. So good.

[jschick88]

Comedy hour coming up!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1097898130605989889

[Locke]

Originally Posted by getbak

Not to mention the fact that they're 2-11-0 on home ice since mid-December. I wouldn't count on a good home stand being a thing, even with two of the games being against Arizona and Anaheim.

Oh yeah, but a solid homestand and these sad sacks are knocking on the door!

Buy! BUY!!

[oldschoolcalgary]

SAIP

Manning clears waivers....no one wanted him for free...

can't make this stuff up

[Beninho]

This will forever be one of my favourite passages from no good oilers blow horn David Staples. This delusion even came before their 2017 “run”. Just a remainder to the type of delusion that goes on in Edmonton, which will continue after their pathetic team gets another high draft pick in the offseason. Maybe Staples will rinse and repeat this article

“Having watched Connor McDavid closely for a year now, and also having gone over video of Oilers prospects like fourth overall pick Puljujarvi, second round pick Tyler Benson and free agent signing Drake Caggiula, while also keeping in mind talented players like Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Jordan Eberle and Leon Draisaitl, it’s evident that when the story is written of this Edmonton team, it might not be known one day so much as a big, fast and tough team, but as a squad whose top lines passed around and shot the puck at a blistering pace, one not seen before at the National Hockey League level. “




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[saXon]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I understand your pain, but living in Edmonton for 2.5 years now I can confidently say that you came in expecting a narrative and fulfilled that narrative. Half your points are situations or embellishments that I have never seen in 30 months of living here.

If your experience in Edmonton is going to West Edmonton mall - on a Family Day long weekend - and likely using the Whitemud or Henday to get there, then what do you expect? That's like defining Calgary by Glenmore/MacLeod Trail and Chinook Mall.

I encourage you next time to visit Garneau/West Oliver/Hawreluk Park/River Valley/Louise Mckinney Park/Rossdale/Whitemud and Blackmud Creek Ravines . . . Lots of outdoor things to do and places to walk. There are more than enough trees in Edmonton to enjoy.

Ugh. I feel dirty defending Edmonton but it's honestly not as bad as you are narrating. However I also find Calgarians particularly create visions in their head of what to expect and hope they come true so they can relay back to the homefront. I used to do it all the time myself.

The Oilers crap though, that's painful and true. Tried to argue with an Oilers fan on the weekend that trading McDavid would be the best thing they could do right now, and all I got was "McDavid makes Edmonton an attractive place to play". I retorted with do you want to be an attractive place to play or to win Stanley Cups? I got the stink eye after that.

Except this wasn’t my first time to Edmonton. This has been the narrative 50+ times visiting for extended periods. I used to work between both Whitecourt and Edm. Edmonton is obviously worse in the winter than the summer. But as for the rest, can you explain the level of sevice received not only for myself but friends, relatives, and co-workers who have collectively experienced the same while visiting the city? I don’t seem to have issue in this much excess in Calgary when I visit.

Every city has a bad restaurant experience, or a driver that cuts you off, or a terrible level of customer service, however it’s never in excess or localized into a setting as much as this city. I’m not cherry picking here, it’s been a collective of terrible experiences over a lifetime.

[wretched34]

Originally Posted by brew

They must be salivating an extra bit with their home stand being all the teams we're softening up the night before

Except I've seen a lot of Oil fans complaining that the next few games against tired teams isn't an advantage, because they are all playing to beat the Oilers, and not wearing themselves out against the Flames. So Flames keep getting easy wins, while teams step it up against the Coil. Also using a loss in Calgary as an excuse because then teams will be mad heading into Shelbyville.

the logic, and excuses are brilliant. The cold snap has definitely frozen the brains up North.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by devo22

it's only one of their gazillion problems, but Leon "Mullet-Malkin" Draisaitl not being able to carry his own line really hurts them. His production has been great, but they didn't give him that ridiculous contract to be McDavids sidekick on the wing.

It's why they need to trade him this summer. Sell Draisaitl hard as an 80+ point player who can play centre and hope someone falls for it and overpays.

And given how little actual talent is on that roster, it's also Edmonton's best shot at a quick talent infusion.

[JBR]

Originally Posted by wretched34

Except I've seen a lot of Oil fans complaining that the next few games against tired teams isn't an advantage, because they are all playing to beat the Oilers, and not wearing themselves out against the Flames. So Flames keep getting easy wins, while teams step it up against the Coil. Also using a loss in Calgary as an excuse because then teams will be mad heading into Shelbyville.



the logic, and excuses are brilliant. The cold snap has definitely frozen the brains up North.

This brings a smile to my face as I recall a great ‘discussion’ I had with a buddy recently who cheers for the Oilers.

He claimed the schedule was unfair to the Oilers because they always seemed to play teams ahead of them in the standings, whereas the Flames always ‘lucked out’ by playing teams below them.... ugh..

[Locke]

Originally Posted by wretched34

Except I've seen a lot of Oil fans complaining that the next few games against tired teams isn't an advantage, because they are all playing to beat the Oilers, and not wearing themselves out against the Flames. So Flames keep getting easy wins, while teams step it up against the Coil. Also using a loss in Calgary as an excuse because then teams will be mad heading into Shelbyville.

the logic, and excuses are brilliant. The cold snap has definitely frozen the brains up North.

And they may actually be right, just not for the reasons they think.

At this stage of the game teams needing the points would consider the Oilers essentially 2 free points whereas getting anything out of the Flames will be a brutal grind.

If you're after a minimum of 2 points out of 4 out of Alberta the Oilers are your far safer bet.

[brew]

Originally Posted by JBR

He claimed the schedule was unfair to the Oilers because they always seemed to play teams ahead of them in the standings, whereas the Flames always ‘lucked out’ by playing teams below them.... ugh..

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by saXon

Except this wasn’t my first time to Edmonton. This has been the narrative 50+ times visiting for extended periods. I used to work between both Whitecourt and Edm. Edmonton is obviously worse in the winter than the summer. But as for the rest, can you explain the level of sevice received not only for myself but friends, relatives, and co-workers who have collectively experienced the same while visiting the city? I don’t seem to have issue in this much excess in Calgary when I visit.

Every city has a bad restaurant experience, or a driver that cuts you off, or a terrible level of customer service, however it’s never in excess or localized into a setting as much as this city. I’m not cherry picking here, it’s been a collective of terrible experiences over a lifetime.

I can explain.

E=NG

[Ozy_Flame]

This Stauffer show right now is hilarious. Please tune in for comedy gold.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Locke

"We can still make it with a good home stand?"

How could he even say that with a straight face? Do they not understand how the NHL works? I cant believe fans lapped that up.

They could make the playoffs with a good homestand....if one of the umpteen teams ahead of them somehow lose to each other and collect 0 points while the Oilers run the table.

Here are the facts:

Oilers home games:
· v. Arizona 19 Feb
· NYI 21 Feb
· Anaheim 23 Feb.

Teams between the Oilers and a playoff berth:
· Anaheim (+2; -1 game)
· Arizona (+4; -1 game)
· Vancouver (+6; -2 games)
· Chicago (+6; -2 games)
· Colorado (+6; -1 game)
· Minnesota (+7; -1 game)

Games between teams #8–13 from today until 25 Feb when the Oilers are in Nashville:
· Anaheim @ Minnesota, 19 Feb
· Arizona @ Vancouver, 21 Feb
· Chicago v. Colorado, 22 Feb

If the Oilers win all their games this week they will at best find themselves in 11th place, two points out of the playoffs, but surrendering the first tiebreaker to both Colorado and Minnesota. Effectively, in a perfect world they are still three points back:

· Colorado 62 GP 61 pts
· Vancouver 62 GP 61 pts
· Minnesota 63 GP 60 pts
· Edmonton 61 GP 59 pts
· Chicago 63 GP 59 pts
· Arizona 62 GP 57 pts
· Anaheim 62 GP 57 pts

What are the chances that between six teams and fifteen games only three of them pick up two points?

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Here are the facts:

Oilers home games:
· v. Arizona 19 Feb
· NYI 21 Feb
· Anaheim 23 Feb.

Teams between the Oilers and a playoff berth:
· Anaheim (+2; -1 game)
· Arizona (+4; -1 game)
· Vancouver (+6; -2 games)
· Chicago (+6; -2 games)
· Colorado (+6; -1 game)
· Minnesota (+7; -1 game)

Games between teams #8–13 from today until 25 Feb when the Oilers are in Nashville:
· Anaheim @ Minnesota, 19 Feb
· Arizona @ Vancouver, 21 Feb
· Chicago v. Colorado, 22 Feb

If the Oilers win all their games this week they will at best find themselves in 11th place, two points out of the playoffs, but surrendering the first tiebreaker to both Colorado and Minnesota. Effectively, in a perfect world they are still three points back:

· Colorado 62 GP 61 pts
· Vancouver 62 GP 61 pts
· Minnesota 63 GP 60 pts
· Edmonton 61 GP 59 pts
· Chicago 63 GP 59 pts
· Arizona 62 GP 57 pts
· Anaheim 62 GP 57 pts

What are the chances that between six teams and fifteen games only three of them pick up two points?

The only possible way to make a run for a playoff spot when behind by so much, with so many teams to pass, is to have a VERY long winning streak. Saint Louis is 14-2-1 in their last 17 games, for example.

A three game winning streak for the Oilers on this homestand helps the Oilers nothing, because one of the teams ahead of them will almost certainly get 4-5 points in those 3 games, and several of them will get 3-4. Win three in a row, and you will only be 5 or 6 points out, instead of 7.

Also, the problem with having a three game winning streak - is that by definition, you have a loss at the end of a winning streak. A three game winning streak is really a 3-1 streak, or at best a 3-0-1 streak. You need longer streaks than 3 to make any difference in the standings.

The Oilers have one winning streak of longer than 3 games all season - why would anyone think they could manage that now?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

There are multiple stats we can use to put Kucherov's last five games into perspective, but the one that really stands out well above the rest is that he would be sixth in scoring on the Oilers this season with his point total over the last five games alone.

It's a testament to both how insane the run Kucherov is on is and how little secondary scoring the Oilers have outside of Connor McDavid.

https://www.bardown.com/you-won-t-be...ames-1.1260268

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by JBR

He claimed the schedule was unfair to the Oilers because they always seemed to play teams ahead of them in the standings, whereas the Flames always ‘lucked out’ by playing teams below them.... ugh..

Wow, this is the epitome of "dig up, stupid" logic.