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Zulu29 · 02-19-2019, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

Jones has not been good for them - in 45 games, he has a 0.896. Look at yesterday against Boston where the Sharks out-shot the Bruins 38-20, but lost 6-5. While it's Eklund and it's undoubtedly garbage, the Sharks need to upgrade their goaltending in the same way the Flames need to. Nothing sinks a team in the playoffs like a sub-.900 save percentage.

Martin Jones is not good this year.

Jeez, didn’t realize he’d been crapping the bed so badly!

Textcritic · 02-19-2019, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

Jones has not been good for them - in 45 games, he has a 0.896. Look at yesterday against Boston where the Sharks out-shot the Bruins 38-20, but lost 6-5. While it's Eklund and it's undoubtedly garbage, the Sharks need to upgrade their goaltending in the same way the Flames need to. Nothing sinks a team in the playoffs like a sub-.900 save percentage.

Martin Jones is not good this year.

Jones is out of gas. He has played a lot of games over the past three years.

As for the Sharks, I don’t see how they would be able to add anything significant at the deadline. The spent a tonne of assets the past year in trades for the EKs, and are pretty easily outbid by almost every other team.

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transplant99 · 02-19-2019, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

Jones has not been good for them - in 45 games, he has a 0.896. Look at yesterday against Boston where the Sharks out-shot the Bruins 38-20, but lost 6-5. While it's Eklund and it's undoubtedly garbage, the Sharks need to upgrade their goaltending in the same way the Flames need to. Nothing sinks a team in the playoffs like a sub-.900 save percentage.

Martin Jones is not good this year.

And Bobrovsky hasnt been much better.

Oh and Jones has 5 years after this one at almost 6M a year.

Brick · 02-19-2019, 11:24 AM

Martin Jones has a history of rising to a higher level in the playoffs.

The Cobra · 02-19-2019, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brick

Martin Jones has a history of rising to a higher level in the playoffs.

Must explain all those Shark's SC wins LOL.

Brick · 02-19-2019, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Cobra

Must explain all those Shark's SC wins LOL.

I don't think that goaltending has been the issue in the playoffs for the Sharks.

HighLifeMan · 02-19-2019, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Cobra

Must explain all those Shark's SC wins LOL.

0.926 SV % for Jones in 42 playoff games
0.891 SV % for Bobrovsky in 24 playoff games

I know who I’d rather have.

Toonage · 02-19-2019, 11:40 AM

Eklund news should immediately be disregarded.

I'm sure he contradicts himself daily.

Just say no CP.

Textcritic · 02-19-2019, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Brick

Martin Jones has a history of rising to a higher level in the playoffs.

It is not at all unusual for goalies to find another gear in the playoffs. Jones’s numbers don’t appear like anything special.

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Split98 · 02-19-2019, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

I know this may be a bit selfish, but I really really hope teams don't make ANY trades until Monday. after travelling for the last 2 weeks, I'll be wfh on Monday, and nothing more I'd like to do is be working in front of the tv or with the radio on hearing about actual transactions thru-out the day!

Lol, I'm joining this selfish vote. We'll be driving back from the Ottawa game Monday, and a busy TDL will be welcome entertainment

Robo · 02-19-2019, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Split98

Lol, I'm joining this selfish vote. We'll be driving back from the Ottawa game Monday, and a busy TDL will be welcome entertainment

Maybe you can give stone or duchene a lift back to calgary

FanIn80 · 02-19-2019, 12:19 PM

Playing goal for the Columbus Blue Jackets in the playoffs should never be used as an accurate measuring stick of one's overall ability.

Split98 · 02-19-2019, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Robo

Maybe you can give stone or duchene a lift back to calgary

I'll have the GoPro ready!

868904 · 02-19-2019, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

Playing goal for the Columbus Blue Jackets in the playoffs should never be used as an accurate measuring stick of one's overall ability.

Bob has been bad in the playoffs everywhere he's been. He was bad in Philly too.

When you factor in his bailing on his teammates this year, I just don't think he has the mental state to lead a team deep in the playoffs.

With goalies, the mental makeup is as important as the technical ability.

There's enough red flags there to stay away.

Fire · 02-19-2019, 01:44 PM

According to www.sportsclubstats.com The Flames have a 14.3% chance of winning the cup. How much does adding Stone or Duchene moves the needle? Up to 20%? Is that enough to mortgage the future for?

Textcritic · 02-19-2019, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire

According to www.sportsclubstats.com The Flames have a 14.3% chance of winning the cup. How much does adding Stone or Duchene moves the needle? Up to 20%? Is that enough to mortgage the future for?

My own personal hunch is that it doesn't help at all. Historically speaking, Stanley Cup winners do not benefit from big additions at the deadline. I expect this to be the case this year once again.

The Boy Wonder · 02-19-2019, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Textcritic

My own personal hunch is that it doesn't help at all. Historically speaking, Stanley Cup winners do not benefit from big additions at the deadline. I expect this to be the case this year once again.

Yes but Cup winners historically have all the pieces in place to play a physically demanding playoff style hockey, and this team is a player or two away from that. The reason cup winners don't typically make a big addition that pays off is that they are generally set that season.

a big addition (mostly thinking stone) gives you depth, coverage for injuries (lets be honest that Jonny is gonna get slashed and hacked even more come playoffs) and moves frolik down to a bottom 6 role which only benefits the team and gives us the ability to not put mangipanne or czarnik on the ice as they are both weak in the corners and that hurts in playoffs.

keenan87 · 02-19-2019, 02:44 PM

There is only 1 out of 31 teams who wins the cup. So, most teams that do make big additions will not win the Stanley Cup. I have heard this argument from Burke about how the percentage isn't very high of a team winning after a player is added and I think that is a pretty lazy statistic.

Instead, I would like to measure the incremental benefits after adding a player. For example, does adding a rental boost a team from first round exit to second round exit? This is a lot more difficult to measure but is important. A second round exit means more excitement, sales, and additional playoff revenue that may offset the price of a rental (For instance, look at a team like a Columbus who desperately needs a series win in franchise history).

The Cobra · 02-19-2019, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

0.926 SV % for Jones in 42 playoff games

0.891 SV % for Bobrovsky in 24 playoff games

I know who I’d rather have.

Jones has, before this year, been a pretty good goalie during the season and in the playoffs.

He has been terrible this season.

I’m not betting he turns it on in the playoffs.

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Muta · 02-19-2019, 02:49 PM

I'm starting to really warm up to the idea of Simmonds. While he's not the player he once was, he's still a playoff warrior, will stick up for his teammates, would compliment that 3rd line really well, and in a war of attrition (which the playoffs are) he'd be the kind of leader you want on your side. He may even cost less than Duchene, Stone or Zuccarello as well.