Edmonton is No Good VI: Chia•den•freu•de

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Oilers fans are really high on Tyler Benson. His numbers look about as good as Kerby Rychel’s.


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Dube has more goals playing in half the games


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[Roughneck]

Edmonton does have a very underrated collection of golf courses, both in the city and a short drive away. Which is appropriate given how much time the Oilers can spend on them.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Edmonton does have a very underrated collection of golf courses, both in the city and a short drive away. Which is appropriate given how much time the Oilers can spend on them.

They were probably made-to-order.


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[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

AHL success often means a team full of vets that couldn't make the NHL.

pretty much my thoughts...



this image sums it up: zero correlation between AHL team success and subsequent NHL team success. If the Oilers are lucky, they will get 3 decent NHL players, because if you look at that list, there might be 7-8 guys you'd consider as Elite NHLer's (not including goalies)







from the previously posted article...



https://thehockeynews.com/news/artic...soon-to-follow

[Locke]

"We can still make it with a good home stand?"

How could he even say that with a straight face? Do they not understand how the NHL works? I cant believe fans lapped that up.

They could make the playoffs with a good homestand....if one of the umpteen teams ahead of them somehow lose to each other and collect 0 points while the Oilers run the table.

[schteve_d]

Originally Posted by schteve_d

Bob Nicholson is going to be interviewed on CBC radio one in Edmonton some time in the next half hour or so. They are promising it will be interesting. Might be worth a listen.

Link if you're interested: https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live/radio1/edmonton

If you missed it, here is a link for a replay:

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/edmo...gment/15671238

[looooob]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

pretty much my thoughts...



this image sums it up: zero correlation between AHL team success and subsequent NHL team success. If the Oilers are lucky, they will get 3 decent NHL players, because if you look at that list, there might be 7-8 guys you'd consider as Elite NHLer's (not including goalies)







from the previously posted article...



https://thehockeynews.com/news/artic...soon-to-follow

and of those 7-8 a chunk of them were the lockout year Flyers guys who likely wouldn't have been there otherwise


poor Steve Begin for not making the list of random NHL players. he did play over 500 games in his career I think

[CaptainCrunch]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1097909943284289537


Jeez that's some expansion team from the 70's style depth.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by New Era

That's more accurate. Oilers have McDavid. That is pretty well it. Draisaitl does nothing without McDavid, and he proves it every time they split the dynamic solo up. McDavid generates points with anyone. Draisaitl generates points with only McDavid. Period.

The rest of the team is pure garbage. There is another guy I will single out.
I'm so tired of the Klefbom hype. They guy is buttery soft and wears an orange helmet on most nights. Doesn't generate much offense, and is coddled like an emerging superstar. The guy is a less version of TJ Brodie, and when I say lesser version, I mean 1/10th the player Brodie is, and Brodie ain't no scream in hell. The Oilers blueline is a joke because this is the guy that supposedly stirs their drink. Now we know why every team drinks the Oilers' milkshake with such regularity. Their blueline is weak, and Klefbom is their 98 pound weakling on the beach.



No, they have to keep them in the AHL because that is the caliber of player they are. Who do they have?

Tyler Benson? Can't skate at the NHL level and his game of hanging around the perimeter is not going to translate to the NHL. Future is an AHL star, or a PP specialist for the Oilers second unit. Other than that, he would be a detriment when he's on the ice.

Kailer Yamamoto? The next Johnny Hockey, amiright? Small and fast, but the ig difference is he doesn't do things at speed. This has been the weakness in his game all along. He can fly without the puck, but get him the puck and he has to slow down to make anything happen. This works at the AHL level, but in the NHL, not so much. Yamamoto will have to turn into a sniper and learn to finish off the one timer, otherwise he won't have much a career in the show. Don't see a player here.

Cooper Marody? We've seen this show before. Guy has a big year in college and comes out early, only to never repeat that glorious year in the college ranks. I see a repeat here. Doesn't have the skills to play and finish at the NHL level with any consistency. If the Oilers are lucky he'll develop into Drake Caggulia, which means they will tire of him and trade him for the next shiny thing a year after he arrives.

That's the best of their forward prospects on the farm. Other than that its a collection of AHL farm hands and never-will-bes. On the blueline, they are just as weak.

Caleb Jones? We've seen what he has to offer. They drafted him because he was the brother of Seth, and the apple must fall far from the tree, right? Well, this apple fell from the tree, got picked up by a eagle, and dropped into a raveen several miles from his family tree. Caleb might turn into a bottom pairing defenseman, but that is if he continues to develop. What we've seen in his call ups, he's got a very long way to go.

Ethan Bear? Remember when Ethan was better than Rasmus Andersson? Remember how his junior exploits made him a guaranteed first team PP QB? It would be nice if he was able to establish that level of play in the minors. Seems his game doesn't quite translate. Big hope is for him to become a bottom pair defenseman who can step up to be a PP specialist. That seems like a fading dream as well.

The Oilers got nothing, NOTHING, in the minors that can support McDavid. Edmonton is a team that can't draft and can't develop. Bakersfield is an armpit just like Edmonton is. That is what their minor league team has to offer. The Condors=No Good!



And in the next two weeks they will be politely turned down by 90% of the candidates. The only thing working in their favor is there are only 32 GM jobs in the NHL, so guys with aspirations of that job may have to swallow their pride (and a bottle of cyanide) and take the interview.



Let's be honest here. The Condors are riding a red hot 24 year old Shane Starrett. This is a platooning of a couple young guys, this is riding an older goaltender who knows his change at the show is ebbing away.



Yes, the Oilers are wasting his career.



Yes, we know. The river valley. The big mall. The fringefest. Yada yada yada. Has nothing to do with the crap team and the crappier organization.



Big mistake. I suspect the issue was they knew Talbot wanted out of Shelbyville and was unlikely to sign without a big bump. This is the one way the Oilers brass thought they could save face.



Did Katz invest in a weed dispensary up in Edmonton, and the front office is his biggest customer? Could still make the playoffs? They are eight points out of the playoffs. Eight, not seven to tie, because the Oilers are five games back in ROW, so they have to get in outright. They are one LA win from being in last place in the western conference. What ever #### they are smoking in the Oilers' front office, they need to share with the public.

Cannabis doesnt make you this stupid, only edmonton water.

But for real this has got to be some meth use (or maybe none of them stopped abusing cocaine like they did in the 80s?) No amount of pot can make someone this stupid.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

pretty much my thoughts...



this image sums it up: zero correlation between AHL team success and subsequent NHL team success. If the Oilers are lucky, they will get 3 decent NHL players, because if you look at that list, there might be 7-8 guys you'd consider as Elite NHLer's (not including goalies)







from the previously posted article...



https://thehockeynews.com/news/artic...soon-to-follow

That list does suggest that they have 1 middle six NHLer down there somewhere. That is something they desperately need.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

https://twitter.com/user/status/1097909943284289537


Jeez that's some expansion team from the 70's style depth.

They have a waiver pickup centering their 3rd line and one of their highest goal scorers (who incidentally is another waiver caliber player elevated to godlike status given his ability to act as a solid deflector for mcdavid)

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by GGG

That list does suggest that they have 1 middle six NHLer down there somewhere. That is something they desperately need.

They need four or five.


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[getbak]

Originally Posted by Locke

"We can still make it with a good home stand?"

How could he even say that with a straight face? Do they not understand how the NHL works? I cant believe fans lapped that up.

They could make the playoffs with a good homestand....if one of the umpteen teams ahead of them somehow lose to each other and collect 0 points while the Oilers run the table.

Not to mention the fact that they're 2-11-0 on home ice since mid-December. I wouldn't count on a good home stand being a thing, even with two of the games being against Arizona and Anaheim.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Oilers fans are really high on Tyler Benson. His numbers look about as good as Kerby Rychel’s.

In fairness, there's a world of difference in doing that at age 20 (Benson) vs. 24 (Rychel).

But yeah, other than Benson, thin pickings for potentially solid NHLers on that roster.

[devo22]

yeah it's Benson and maybe Bear, Jones and Marody. Decent, but probably every other team has similar prospects in the system.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

https://twitter.com/user/status/1097909943284289537


Jeez that's some expansion team from the 70's style depth.

Nothing a few more first overall draft picks can't fix.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

https://twitter.com/user/status/1097909943284289537


Jeez that's some expansion team from the 70's style depth.

That looks like an AHL team roster.

Kassian on the 1st line.
Gagner from the AHL to the 2nd line.
Reider has ZERO goals in 44 games.......is on the 2nd line.

That is just a terrible, terrible roster.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

That looks like an AHL team roster.

Kassian on the 1st line.
Gagner from the AHL to the 2nd line.
Reider has ZERO goals in 44 games.......is on the 2nd line.

That is just a terrible, terrible roster.

Haha, even Hathaway has 7.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Haha, even Hathaway has 7.

Hathaway has been a pretty good 4th liner, but he's a 4th liner on a 2nd place team.

It's far worse for the Oilers

From HFoilers, the direness of no good is starting to sink in when looking at that ECHL level lineup.

They should have waived Tobias Rieder and sent him down if nobody claimed him, Brandon Manning has more goals than him this year!

That didn't even cross my mind.

I'm going to let that sink in for a second.

Jesus Murphy.

:facepalm:

[devo22]

it's only one of their gazillion problems, but Leon "Mullet-Malkin" Draisaitl not being able to carry his own line really hurts them. His production has been great, but they didn't give him that ridiculous contract to be McDavids sidekick on the wing.

Kassian on the first line, Chiasson (who's numbers are inflated by McD) has to carry Lucic and Cave ... and my god, look at that blueline. The no-goodness of that lineup is unbelievable, I'm actually shocked that McDavid hasn't demanded a trade yet.