Elias 'Fricken Zebulon' Lindholm!

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Wanted to bump this thread-



Is it possible that Lindy is our best all around player?

- offensive catalyst, no matter which line he is on

-great defensive play. Leads league in +/- as a forward

- lethal shot, one timer has become legit option on the pp because of him

-causes turnovers very frequently

-unreal player at 4v4 or shorthanded. Extra space = extra glory for him

- amazingly strong on the boards and very hard to get off the puck in open ice



I would have said tkachuk was close or on par but lindholms consistency has really catapulted him past matt imo. One of the best contracts in the entire league.

He’s Treliving’s master piece. The contract, the player, his production. It’s all gold.

Treliving talked in the off season about getting the next William Karlsson before the trade occurred and he managed to find a better version. Amazing


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[icecube]

Originally Posted by Beninho

He’s Treliving’s master piece. The contract, the player, his production. It’s all gold


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There's more where that came from, my friend. You'll see.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Wanted to bump this thread-

Is it possible that Lindy is our best all around player?
- offensive catalyst, no matter which line he is on
-great defensive play. Leads league in +/- as a forward
- lethal shot, one timer has become legit option on the pp because of him
-causes turnovers very frequently
-unreal player at 4v4 or shorthanded. Extra space = extra glory for him
- amazingly strong on the boards and very hard to get off the puck in open ice

I would have said tkachuk was close or on par but lindholms consistency has really catapulted him past matt imo. One of the best contracts in the entire league.

I have to give the edge to Giordano as the best all around player. It might be my homer glasses, but I haven't seen a season like this from a D-man since some of the legends like Pronger and Neidermeyer's heydays. This is a Hart-caliber season from him, but of course the Hart just goes to the Art Ross winner these days.



Zebulon is the best all around forward though. He is doing every little thing right, and producing like a machine. The cherry on top is that contract of his. This trade has been a home run x10.

[sureLoss]

Lindholm currently on pace for 95 points.

NHL Public Relations
@PR_NHL
Elias Lindholm (25-43—68) extended his point streak to 5 GP. Only four players have recorded more points in their first season with the @NHLFlames.

Sergei Makarov (86 in 1989-90)
Doug Gilmour (85 in 1988-89)
Alex Tanguay (81 in 2006-07)
Mel Bridgman (75 in 1981-82)#NHLStats

[devo22]

there's a good chance that he'll outscore his totals of the past two seasons. Had 27 goals and 89 points combined, but is on pace for almost 35 goals and 95 points this season. Unbelievable stuff.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by icecube

There's more where that came from, my friend. You'll see.

From your lips to gods ears. If Treliving can score another contract/ break out player like lindholm then he will be the greatest flames gm ever.

[ComixZone]

Randomly stumbled across the fact that Elias Lindholm won the 2018/2019 Viking Award - which, according to Wikipedia is:

The Viking Award is awarded annually to the best Swedish ice hockey player in North America. The winner is decided by a vote among all Swedish-born players participating in the NHL or the NHL farm-team leagues. Only Mats Sundin has received the award four times. Peter Forsberg, Markus Näslund, Börje Salming, Henrik Zetterberg and Erik Karlsson have received it three times.

Link.

Not sure if it was posted elsewhere, but heck yeah Zebulon!

[looooob]

thats a cool find. 3rd Flame after Loob and Nilsson. an interesting list, including a father- son pair (Steens) and a WHA winner (Ulf Nilsson)


curious in the decision behind Patrik Sundstrom over Loob in 89 though..

[FanIn80]

How did Sundin win it more times than Forsberg?

Stupid ankles.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Randomly stumbled across the fact that Elias Lindholm won the 2018/2019 Viking Award - which, according to Wikipedia is:

The Viking Award is awarded annually to the best Swedish ice hockey player in North America. The winner is decided by a vote among all Swedish-born players participating in the NHL or the NHL farm-team leagues. Only Mats Sundin has received the award four times. Peter Forsberg, Markus Näslund, Börje Salming, Henrik Zetterberg and Erik Karlsson have received it three times.

Link.

Not sure if it was posted elsewhere, but heck yeah Zebulon!

This is excellent news, and well deserved! This clinches it; I'm getting a lindy retro red made.

[Samonadreau]

Crazy considering the year Hedman had last season. Goes to show the complete game Lindy has.

[Dragomir]

Lindholm is our best player and someone you can win a Cup with. The Flames need more players like him which can only be acquired through the draft. I really hope we keep our 1st this year.....

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Dragomir

Lindholm is our best player and someone you can win a Cup with. The Flames need more players like him which can only be acquired through the draft. I really hope we keep our 1st this year.....

Your 2nd sentence is clearly false as Lindholm was acquired by us outside the draft. You can trade Hamilton/Ferland/Fox for Hanifin/Lindholm. You can trade picks for Dougie Hamilton.

On the one hand you want us to keep the 1st. But on the other hand the 1st rounder might be one of the best assets we have to try and acquire another Lindholm. So shouldn't you be hoping we trade our 1st for another core forward?

[Jethro Choicebro]

Originally Posted by Dragomir

Lindholm is our best player and someone you can win a Cup with. The Flames need more players like him which can only be acquired through the draft. I really hope we keep our 1st this year.....

Isn't that an odd thing to say about someone who we didn't acquire through the draft?

Agree on his importance to the team, though not sure as effective on the new line

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

How did Sundin win it more times than Forsberg?

Stupid ankles.

The crazy part is Nik Lidstrom only won it twice.

Not sure how you can win the Norris trophy 7 times but only win this twice.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Jethro Choicebro

Isn't that an odd thing to say about someone who we didn't acquire through the draft?

Agree on his importance to the team, though not sure as effective on the new line

I was interested by this post because my inclination is in the opposite direction- I feel like he's been even more effective at centre and with Tkachuk.

I decided to go and look at the numbers. Not sure exactly when he was moved to second line C, but I think it was right before or after the Peters move. I decided to measure from Peter's departure (Nov. 27th)

17 GP, 5 G 9 A for 14 points (8 ES Points) and -7

Before:

27 GP, 11G 7 A for 18 points (12 ES Points)and -4

He's producing more or less the same ES rate and having worse luck defensively (though I suspect the matchups have gotten dramatically more difficult for him...)

So I guess we were both wrong- he's producing more or less the same. The key will be if this has helped Tkachuk's offensive production increase, or if Mony-Gaudreau can help someone else's (Backlund in this case...) Offensive production increase.

[Jethro Choicebro]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I was interested by this post because my inclination is in the opposite direction- I feel like he's been even more effective at centre and with Tkachuk.

Good points. My comment was fully anecdotal but just seems as if he doesn't get the same quantity/quality of chances he did previously, though admittedly i'm likely in my head comparing to last year which is obviously flawed. Though does seem Backlund is now getting more chances - despite not doing anything with them. Again all anecdotal.

Looking at the stats for the majority of this season is tough given how up and down they've been, and generally not very good.

Regardless, him playing center is pivotal, though always felt Lindholm/Johnny and Tkachuk/Monny would pair better

[Coach]

Do they have a different award for goalies? Surprised not to see Lundqvist on that list.

[Dragomir]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Your 2nd sentence is clearly false as Lindholm was acquired by us outside the draft. You can trade Hamilton/Ferland/Fox for Hanifin/Lindholm. You can trade picks for Dougie Hamilton.

On the one hand you want us to keep the 1st. But on the other hand the 1st rounder might be one of the best assets we have to try and acquire another Lindholm. So shouldn't you be hoping we trade our 1st for another core forward?

That trade is an anomaly in the NHL though, the majority of impact players are usually drafted and developed not traded for. We also gave up a huge piece in Hamilton for him so it wasn’t nearly as effective as it would’ve been if we drafted and developed Lindholm.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Dragomir

That trade is an anomaly in the NHL though, the majority of impact players are usually drafted and developed not traded for. We also gave up a huge piece in Hamilton for him so it wasn’t nearly as effective as it would’ve been if we drafted and developed Lindholm.

Didn't draft Hamilton either.

No, they didn't draft Lindholm. They drafted some kid who's scored 186 goals and just shy of 400 points in 6.5 years. I'd say they did OK in drafting him.