2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[dammage79]

I think Johansson is more of a fit for this roster than almost anyone save a good #2-3 center. Even then, I think MoJo could fill that spot If needed.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think Johansson is more of a fit for this roster than almost anyone save a good #2-3 center. Even then, I think MoJo could fill that spot If needed.

Kevin Hayes is the guy I think is the best fit but Im not sure he is "gettable".

[browna]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Kevin Hayes is the guy I think is the best fit but Im not sure he is "gettable".

Hayes (kept past this year, very good friends with JG) and Zucarrelo (fine if just rental) would be a perfect scenario to bolster our top 9, with a far cheaper acquisition cost than Stone, who my guess is the Jets, so tonight’s game there should be interesting.

Neither of those players have talked contract extensions with the Rags, according to reports last week.

[iamca]

Originally Posted by browna

Hayes (kept past this year, very good friends with JG) and Zucarrelo (fine if just rental) would be a perfect scenario to bolster our top 9, with a far cheaper acquisition cost than Stone.

Agreed and the cost is very important.

Is everyone buying the Tre statement about top 3 round picks?

If so, are we losing one or more of the top 3 young D men, Dube, or Lazar, Frolik, ...?

[djsFlames]

I like Frolik but he isn't a second line RW on a championship team, and that's what we want to be.

Make the upgrade.

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

I like Frolik but he isn't a second line RW on a championship team, and that's what we want to be.

Make the upgrade.

Tre already did...it hasn’t worked out!

RW depth has been a problem with this team for a while. We keep trying to solve it with big “truculent” players (Jones, Brouwer, Neal...and now the suggestion is Stone). I’d prefer we changed course on got skill/speed and not Size.

A Tarasenko-type would be my choice (of course Tarasenko is not being traded by StL now). Please not Stone...I can’t see him being successful here.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Tre already did...it hasn’t worked out!

RW depth has been a problem with this team for a while. We keep trying to solve it with big “truculent” players (Jones, Brouwer, Neal...and now the suggestion is Stone). I’d prefer we changed course on got skill/speed and not Size.

A Tarasenko-type would be my choice (of course Tarasenko is not being traded by StL now). Please not Stone...I can’t see him being successful here.

So, basically Zuccarello.

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

So, basically Zuccarello.

Yes, he would be a good option imho.

Not that I don’t think Stone is a good player, I just think it’s proven that his ‘type’ of player doesn’t work on this team.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Yes, he would be a good option imho.

Not that I don’t think Stone is a good player, I just think it’s proven that his ‘type’ of player doesn’t work on this team.

The price for Stone wouldn't be worth what he would add to this team overall I think also.

We just need a little more skill and finish to compliment Tkachuk's game around the net. We have three of the better two-way forward in the game already. It would be somewhat redundant.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Yes, he would be a good option imho.

Not that I don’t think Stone is a good player, I just think it’s proven that his ‘type’ of player doesn’t work on this team.

I am sorry...who in the history of this team that didnt work out resembles Stone???

For the record I am in the Hayes/Zuccarello/Johansson/Zucker camp...but the above seems like a crazy statement.

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

The price for Stone wouldn't be worth what he would add to this team overall I think also.

We just need a little more skill and finish to compliment Tkachuk's game around the net. We have three of the better two-way forward in the game already. It would be somewhat redundant.

Ok , so 100% of you and me that agree...I’m calling that a “Statistically Significant” sample size. Fingers crossed that the Rangers lose a lot between now and next Monday’s deadline and become confirmed sellers.

Add Zuccarello to the second line, switch a Frolik to the fourth/third and boom, problem solved. Being a GM is easy...why do so many make it look so hard

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by tkflames

I am sorry...who in the history of this team that didnt work out resembles Stone???

For the record I am in the Hayes/Zuccarello/Johansson/Zucker camp...but the above seems like a crazy statement.

If you bothered to read the thread you’d have seen I listed the examples of players a few posts back...you may not agree with my list, but does that justify my post being called crazy

[TheScorpion]

Calling Stone a comparable player to David Jones, Troy Brouwer, and James Neal is absolutely hilarious and maybe the most wrong thing I've ever read on this site.

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Calling Stone a comparable player to David Jones, Troy Brouwer, and James Neal is absolutely hilarious and maybe the most wrong thing I've ever read on this site.

Thanks for your typically well thought out and reasoned response. Am I to assume you, also, didn’t bother to read the thread and are mining cheap ‘thanks’ from the folks not enamoured with my take on another player.

Are you saying Stone is fast and highly skilled? I don’t agree. Stone is closer to Brouwer than Zuccarello in ‘type’ of player

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Thanks for your typically well thought out and reasoned response.

Are you saying Stone is fast and highly skilled? I don’t agree. Stone is closer to Brouwer than Zuccarello

Stone absolutely is highly skilled.
The year Ekblad won the Calder, Stone was second in voting, ahead of Gaudreau.
He's a .85 point per game player though his career.

He might not be beating guys on the outside like mcdavid, but he's not slow either.

I don't think you know what you're talking about.

[icecube]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Thanks for your typically well thought out and reasoned response.

Are you saying Stone is fast and highly skilled? I don’t agree. Stone is closer to Brouwer than Zuccarello in ‘type’ of player

Who cares if he's not a blazer? He's fast and smart enough to keep up with anyone. He's skilled enough to make and finish plays. He can shut down the best players in the league. He's great at poking away pucks and breaking up potentially dangerous plays. He's not redundant. He would make the Flames just that much more dangerous and a cup threat for as long as our core is together. There is not much to dislike about him other than fitting him into the salary cap.

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Once again, thank you for this cheap personal attack. I’d complain to the mods but what would be the point...

In your rage, did you miss where I said he wasn’t a bad player just a bad fit in my opinion. I’m not criticizing the player...heck, I think Neal would be a 25 goal scorer in Vegas if he were there, it’s a better fit.

Stone is, imho, similar pace to Brouwer and Neal. As opposed to Zuccarello or Tarasenko. How many times are we going to recruit this type of player and see it fail?

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

If you bothered to read the thread you’d have seen I listed the examples of players a few posts back...you may not agree with my list, but does that justify my post being called crazy

I did read it...and my statement stands. In what world is Stone at his age a comparable player to Neal or Brouwer...??

Thank goodness the Saturday night rumours are coming soon...this thread has taken another turn for the ridiculous...

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Once again, thank you for this cheap personal attack. I’d complain to the mods but what would be the point...

Stone is, imho, similar pace to Brouwer and Neal. As opposed to Zuccarello or Tarasenko. How many times are we going to recruit this type of player and see it fail?

You're admitting this is your opinion, so someone else pointing out that they think you're wrong isnt necessarily a personal attack.

I think you should actually take some time and watch some stone highlights, because the conclusions you're coming to seem impossible for someone who has done so to reach. Stone is more skilled than zuccarello, I say that with a lot of confidence. Probably not as fast but definitely not a cement truck like brouwer.

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by icecube

Who cares if he's not a blazer? He's fast and smart enough to keep up with anyone. He's skilled enough to make and finish plays. He can shut down the best players in the league. He's great at poking away pucks and breaking up potentially dangerous plays. He's not redundant. He would make the Flames just that much more dangerous and a cup threat for as long as our core is together. There is not much to dislike about him other than fitting him into the salary cap.

I don’t think he’s as fast as you do. That’s my point. I’d rather have Zuccarello, as his speed would be a better fit and compliment to the team, in my opinion.