2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Phagoof]

Dube, Frolik, 1st and a conditional 1st if he signs is more like it. Based off the big name traded players from players from previous years.

[Toonage]

Yes, my proposal would be with Stone signed to an extension (agreement in place)

[ClubFlames]

Brodie, Bennett, Frolik, 1st round pick for Mark Stone and Borowiecki?

Extension in place for Stone of course.

Flame away!

[TheScorpion]

Just say no to Mark Borowiecki, who is one of the worst defensemen I've ever seen play live. Besides, why would Ottawa trade him when they're about to name him captain?

[Roof-Daddy]

Does anyone really think that we would trade our #2 defenseman before the off season?

Or Bennett for that matter?

The Flames will be looking to add to their current roster, not shake it up significantly.

Adding Mark Stone is great, but not if you are just creating a hole (or two) elsewhere on the roster.

If anything, they would trade prospects/picks to add a player like that, then maybe look to move guys like Brodie at the draft to recover picks/prospects as well as clear cap space to extend Stone.

[MacDaddy77]

Oilers trade Talbot to Flyers

Flyers trade Talbot to Flames for Smith and 2020 2nd.

Talbot wins Conn Smythe for Flames.

E=NG

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Yes, my proposal would be with Stone signed to an extension (agreement in place)

I don’t see why the Flames feel the need to give Ottawa significantly more value by getting him signed in advance. The Flames could easily tamper through Mime Stone to see if there is a legit chance to sign Mark and then pay the rental price to get him and sign him afterwards.

Guys like Bennett and Kylington need to be retained for the playoffs.

What about this deal

To CGY: Stone
To Ott: 1st CGY, Hudon, 2nd (Mtl), Dube, 3rd CGY (becomes 1st if Stone re-signs in Calgary
To MTL: Frolik

CGY trades 1st, Dube, Frolik, conditional pick gets Stone
Montreal trades Hudon and 2nd to get Frolik
Ottawa trades Stone to get 1st, 2nd ,3rd (could turn into 1st), Hudon, Dube

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I don’t see why the Flames feel the need to give Ottawa significantly more value by getting him signed in advance. The Flames could easily tamper through Mime Stone to see if there is a legit chance to sign Mark and then pay the rental price to get him and sign him afterwards.

Guys like Bennett and Kylington need to be retained for the playoffs.

What about this deal

To CGY: Stone
To Ott: 1st CGY, Hudon, 2nd (Mtl), Dube, 3rd CGY (becomes 1st if Stone re-signs in Calgary
To MTL: Frolik

So my deal is too rich, but yours has the Flames giving up potentially two 1st round picks? Plus the prospect and a roster player?

My idea was the Flames have an agreement that they can sign / extend Stone and give up this year's 1st a top prospect and a roster player.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The Flames could easily tamper through Mime Stone to see if there is a legit chance to sign Mark

Smart because if they mime it, then nothing can be used against them in a tampering case


Anyways, not sure why Montreal would give up a second for Frolik.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Smart because if they mime it, then nothing can be used against them in a tampering case

Unfortunately they'd also learn that Stone would be unwilling to come to Calgary as he's currently stuck in a glass box.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Does anyone really think that we would trade our #2 defenseman before the off season?

Or Bennett for that matter?

The Flames will be looking to add to their current roster, not shake it up significantly.

Adding Mark Stone is great, but not if you are just creating a hole (or two) elsewhere on the roster.

If anything, they would trade prospects/picks to add a player like that, then maybe look to move guys like Brodie at the draft to recover picks/prospects as well as clear cap space to extend Stone.

I agree on Brodie. But I suppose if you are adding Stone, and trading Bennett as part of the price, you are probably moving Frolik to the third line (or something similar) and there's no hole created. Also, after the trade deadline, you might see Dube, Quine and/or Lazar come up. So there will be bodies.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Unfortunately they'd also learn that Stone would be unwilling to come to Calgary as he's currently stuck in a glass box.

Pull him in using the rope.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Smart because if they mime it, then nothing can be used against them in a tampering case


Anyways, not sure why Montreal would give up a second for Frolik.

They are flush with cap space and also a team that was trying to sign him when the Flames did

[Stanley]

We already have the least amount of hits in the league...I'm not a fan of trading away Bennett, one of the only guys who can throw a hit, especially in the playoffs.

That's my main concern with the roster - we ain't goin' deep in the playoffs with an average of 12-14 hits/game

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Toonage

So my deal is too rich, but yours has the Flames giving up potentially two 1st round picks? Plus the prospect and a roster player?

My idea was the Flames have an agreement that they can sign / extend Stone and give up this year's 1st a top prospect and a roster player.

Yes we can’t afford to give up Kylington and Dube imo we need these ELC’s now. Frolik while still valuable is a needed cap dump, and we only give up the pick if he stays. I don’t see the sign and trade scenario as realistic.

My deal keeps defensive depth for the playoffs yours removes it.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

for the talked about acquisition cost / salary I hope Stone ends up elsewhere.

He’s a good winger you can count on for 20 goals and 60 points for as long as his skating holds up. That’s not worth a big hit to cap long term and the team depth it would take IMO.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Yes we can’t afford to give up Kylington and Dube imo we need these ELC’s now. Frolik while still valuable is a needed cap dump, and we only give up the pick if he stays. I don’t see the sign and trade scenario as realistic.

My deal keeps defensive depth for the playoffs yours removes it.

Gotcha. I can understand that approach for sure.

Just for the record, my deal isn't a sign and trade. Ottawa trades Stone, we then sign him. Agreement would be in place prior to the trade that Calgary would sign him. My assumption is that once Ottawa agrees to hear offers they allow the agent to discuss terms with interested teams.

[Hoop27]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Does anyone really think that we would trade our #2 defenseman before the off season?

.

Really depends on if you think Brodie is a legit #2 or if he's a fraud being carried by Gio.


Personally if Brodie gets a top 6 forward I think you have to take that risk as I'm not sold on him.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

When we traded for Hamilton it had to have been for Bennett.
When we traded for Hamonic, obviously Bennett was going the other way.
When we traded for Lindholm, of course the Hurricanes were getting Bennett so both players would get a change of scenery.

Bennett "has" to part of the package for a Mark Stone that is presumably NOT re-signing in OTT

So because he wasn't needed to do other deals, means he wont be the request in any others.

Solid logic.

[Knut]

I think we could probably land Talbot via a third party.

Talbot sent to Philly for a late pick. They flip him to Calgary for an earlier pick.

Flames try and find Smith a home.