02-13-2019, 08:24 PM
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#9861
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Poe969
Pick up Stone and Nilsson from the sens. It would cost a lot but get them to take Smith and frolik have to give up Janko a first and a conditional first (ya, 2 first rounders) if Stone re-signs or something like that.
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I'd do it. If we can somehow re sign tkachuk and stone we wont need the other 1st anyways lol.
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02-13-2019, 08:26 PM
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#9862
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: compton
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This cowardly talk of awarding TB the cup now is poppycock. It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
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02-13-2019, 08:32 PM
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#9863
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icecube
This cowardly talk of awarding TB the cup now is poppycock. It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
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People must think this is the NBA
Tampa still has a very tough road to the final (like any team does). They got beat last year with by Washington and both teams have essentially the same rosters. Caps did lose their cup winning coach though.
Can’t count out Crosby and Malkin either
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02-13-2019, 08:57 PM
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#9864
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Over the last 15 seasons, the President's Trophy champion has made it to the Final 3 times and won the Cup twice.
In that same time, the President's Trophy winner has been eliminated in the first round of the playoffs 4 times.
There are no guarantees.
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02-13-2019, 09:03 PM
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#9865
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Sorry, wrong. 
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02-13-2019, 09:03 PM
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#9866
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Franchise Player
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One thing about Tampa is they have a lot of players on ELC’s making huge contributions to the team. That’s something to think about before trading away all of our prospects and picks.
Where would Flames be without Tkachuk and the young defensemen having such a big impact? I think it’s inevitable you will have a klunker contract or two on he team and so I don’t know if you can compete for a championship without high impact ELC players.
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02-13-2019, 09:12 PM
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#9867
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 Posted the 6 millionth post! |
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
One thing about Tampa is they have a lot of players on ELC’s making huge contributions to the team. That’s something to think about before trading away all of our prospects and picks.
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Tampa is also going to have to pay big for Brayden Point, who is an RFA after this season. As a player with two 60+ point seasons (including on pace for 104 this season), probably nothing less than $7 million/year. Then they are going to have a sizable group of UFA free agents that either need to be re-signed or let go to market. This also doesn't include small raises for Paquette and Erne, and the fact that both Gourde and Kucherov take sizable jumps in salary next year too.
Tampa is extremely good right now, but how long that is going to last? Who knows. There is a cost for playing so well.
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02-13-2019, 09:14 PM
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#9868
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Over the last 15 seasons, the President's Trophy champion has made it to the Final 3 times and won the Cup twice.
In that same time, the President's Trophy winner has been eliminated in the first round of the playoffs 4 times.
There are no guarantees.
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When is the last time a presidents trophy winner ran away from the rest of the league like the Lightning are this season? While there are no guarantees it's going to take a monumental effort to beat them in a best of 7 series. Likely will require a goaltender playing out of this world and really this hasn't been a stellar season for goaltenders around the league maybe partly due to equipment changes but I just don't see any goaltenders this season that are going to be able to shut that team down for 4/7 games. They totally dominated the Flames in a nothing regular season game. Wait until they step it up a notch in the playoffs. They are the best team we have seen in a long time.
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02-13-2019, 09:21 PM
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#9869
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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What should it take to get Hayes and Zuccarello?
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02-13-2019, 09:26 PM
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#9870
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
When is the last time a presidents trophy winner ran away from the rest of the league like the Lightning are this season? While there are no guarantees it's going to take a monumental effort to beat them in a best of 7 series. Likely will require a goaltender playing out of this world and really this hasn't been a stellar season for goaltenders around the league maybe partly due to equipment changes but I just don't see any goaltenders this season that are going to be able to shut that team down for 4/7 games. They totally dominated the Flames in a nothing regular season game. Wait until they step it up a notch in the playoffs. They are the best team we have seen in a long time.
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Not even close. Unless a long time is a few years. Washington finished the season with a .732 win pct a few years ago. Chicago with over .800 in lockout shortened season. TB is .772 but it’s only February.
One of the greatest regular season teams of all time, the 1995/1996 Detroit Red Wings, didn’t even make it to the Stanley Cup finals.
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02-13-2019, 09:35 PM
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#9871
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Forget their record...just freakin watch them. What they did last night they do on a regular basis.
Where is the weakness on that team?
Of course anything can happen but to suggest they arent head and shoulders better than anyone else in this league is odd to say the least, and if you had to pick one team to win the SC as we sit here today, is there ANY reasonable choice other than the Lightning?
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02-13-2019, 10:24 PM
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#9872
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
... is there ANY reasonable choice other than the Lightning?
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Flames.
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02-13-2019, 10:39 PM
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#9873
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Tampa is also going to have to pay big for Brayden Point, who is an RFA after this season. As a player with two 60+ point seasons (including on pace for 104 this season), probably nothing less than $7 million/year. Then they are going to have a sizable group of UFA free agents that either need to be re-signed or let go to market. This also doesn't include small raises for Paquette and Erne, and the fact that both Gourde and Kucherov take sizable jumps in salary next year too.
Tampa is extremely good right now, but how long that is going to last? Who knows. There is a cost for playing so well.
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Well what will Marner get?
Cause point has 9 fewer points in his career but far more goals than Marner and they both came in at the same time.
Point will be looking for 9M per.
TB has BIG decisions to make this summer.
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02-13-2019, 10:41 PM
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#9874
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Forget their record...just freakin watch them. What they did last night they do on a regular basis.
Where is the weakness on that team?
Of course anything can happen but to suggest they arent head and shoulders better than anyone else in this league is odd to say the least, and if you had to pick one team to win the SC as we sit here today, is there ANY reasonable choice other than the Lightning?
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They might be the most likely...that doesn't make it likely though
They could play the Pens in round one and the Leafs in round two, either of those teams could beat them and they will have all the pressure. Then there are injuries, goal tending, ect. I feel like we go through this every season. Heck if Mike Smith didn't blow 8 points the Flames would be right there. Not gonna base everything on one game where Calgary traveled from Vancouver to Tampa while they were waiting rested.
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02-13-2019, 10:59 PM
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#9875
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Posted the 6 millionth post! |
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Well what will Marner get?
Cause point has 9 fewer points in his career but far more goals than Marner and they both came in at the same time.
Point will be looking for 9M per.
TB has BIG decisions to make this summer.
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I do think Tampa Bay is so good already that players might be willing to take a relative discount in order to guarantee one or multiple Cup wins. I think most players would want to be part of that team that good, and would be willing to sign for less to be part of it. But time will tell, and this summer may reflect that.
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02-13-2019, 11:02 PM
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#9876
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
What should it take to get Hayes and Zuccarello?
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McKenzie says the the likely return for Hayes is a 1st and for Zuccarello is a 2nd + prospect.
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02-13-2019, 11:16 PM
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#9877
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Franchise Player
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How out to lunch am I?
Artemi Panarin
Matt Duchene
Calgary 2019 3rd
Calgary 2020 2nd (becomes a 2019 1st if the Flames make the Stanley Cup Finals)
Columbus 2019 3rd
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02-13-2019, 11:21 PM
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#9878
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Gaskal
How out to lunch am I?
Artemi Panarin
Matt Duchene
Calgary 2019 3rd
Calgary 2020 2nd (becomes a 2019 1st if the Flames make the Stanley Cup Finals)
Columbus 2019 3rd |
Calgary makes out like bandits.
Too much risk for Columbus
Not enough going to Ottawa
IMO
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This deal is DONE, im not sure what the worry is. Heatly is an Oiler, just some paperwork to get done. This isnt another Nylander incident
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02-13-2019, 11:42 PM
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#9879
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaskal
How out to lunch am I?
Artemi Panarin
Matt Duchene
Calgary 2019 3rd
Calgary 2020 2nd (becomes a 2019 1st if the Flames make the Stanley Cup Finals)
Columbus 2019 3rd |
Is this... Is this a joke?
We get Panarin for a 2nd and a 3rd?
Ottawa gets a 2nd and a 3rd for Duchene?
If not joking, that seems very unlikely.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by snipetype
k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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02-13-2019, 11:46 PM
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#9880
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I think Marcus Johansson and a goalie. But if he doesn't play center then there will be a switch from Johansson to whoever is a center. Henrique intrigues me.
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