I was wondering when 960 was going to bring this up. He was a fixture on the station and when he was let go last week I thought they might address it, but nope.
Buzzard: 960 brought it up prior to my post during a Clean it Up segment
Last edited by Toonage; 02-13-2019 at 08:18 AM.
The Following User Says Thank You to Toonage For This Useful Post:
They probably didn't know lol. But now that it's been posted here, I expect they mention it within minutes, as I'm certain at least 50% of news they talk about comes directly from this site.
I was listening at the same time. I didn’t really mind the Steinberg-Pinder bickering. It certainly highlighted their differences. Pinder claiming his “hot takes” make for good radio and claims Steinberg is more cautious. With the implication being that Steinberg is not good radio.
I value both Steinbag and Pinder as hosts but it is becoming completely unprofessional at this point. Two days ago they go into another battle with Will Nault (I think?). All three were basically calling each other know it alls, unable to effectively debate with each other and going completely off topic. Most of this fell on Nault this time as he completely lost his cool, however, there is something sour if these guys cannot work together effectively and this keeps happening every few days.
__________________
I hate to tell you this, but I’ve just launched an air biscuit
I value both Steinbag and Pinder as hosts but it is becoming completely unprofessional at this point. Two days ago they go into another battle with Will Nault (I think?). All three were basically calling each other know it alls, unable to effectively debate with each other and going completely off topic. Most of this fell on Nault this time as he completely lost his cool, however, there is something sour if these guys cannot work together effectively and this keeps happening every few days.
It was bound to happen when you have 2 guys that constantly want to talk over everyone interacting with each other. Nault sounded like a child when he blew up at Pinder, he should stick with being the producer and not try to be the host.
The Following User Says Thank You to Madman For This Useful Post:
Nault doesn't know how to debate and seems to take arguments personally. Add that to how he interrupts his guests, talks over people, etc. Someone here once likened him to a guy you'd talk sports with at a bar. I think that was spot on.
And on a (more) nit picky note, I can't stand how hard he laughs at everything Loubardias says.
I like Lou. Lou isn't that funny.
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Toonage For This Useful Post:
Yeah Will Nault is horrible at talking over other people and guests.
I remember he was interviewing Steven Brunt one day on the morning show when he was rotating on that program and talked over / interupted him at least 4 times during their short interview. As a listener I was frustrated about how disrespectful he was being to the guest, couldn't imagine how frustrating it would be as the guy he's actually speaking over.
Has to be very frustrating to work with him because whenever I listen to him on the show he's constantly doing that and as others mentioned it makes it even worse since he tends to take the debate personally.
The Following User Says Thank You to SuperMatt18 For This Useful Post:
Nault doesn't know how to debate and seems to take arguments personally. Add that to how he interrupts his guests, talks over people, etc. Someone here once likened him to a guy you'd talk sports with at a bar. I think that was spot on.
Yeah Will is the worst guy on the Fan.
He’s like that friend you can’t even have a conversation with because he’s going to start arguing/shaking with anger/lip quivering. Drives me nuts.
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Scroopy Noopers For This Useful Post:
Yeah I was surprised to hear that too, he was definitely one of the best guests on the Fan.
Welp... another reason not to listen.
Nault is thin skinned on everything, only further degrading his thoughtless easy broadcasting takes. He's the only one who ever replies on the text line, and only when you say something he doesn't like.
Pinder has become unlistenable.
But listening to the clip of him and Will the other day was like watching two A-hole dogs fight with each other, while you know their owners are recoiling in embarrassment.
Pinder spouts his "fan-statistical" narratives like they ARE an undeniable fact like it's raining outside or not.
Then he cackles... he literally cackles on the radio, at the notion it could be any other way (sometimes directly at the person he's in a conversation with).
Analytics aren't wrong, but they are contextual. He gives no credence, or backhanded credence to the context, and ridicules it constantly.
I remember when Treliving started and he told Pinder that there is no advanced stat that tells you how much one player likes playing with another.
He has zero insight into the nuances of team building and is a blowhard charlatan selling emotionally potent oversimplification.
He hosted a segment at www.thecoachessite.com between James Mirtle and Justin Bourne of The Athletic.
It is really good, and along with the other videos, I would encourage anyone to subscribe. Friedman makes a cameo appearance at the end. The first month is free, then you can unsubscribe.
Quote:
Sometimes the best perspective is an unbiased perspective. That’s the basis of The Athletic, a sports-writing company started a couple years ago with a mission of providing in-depth sports content that goes further than the average newspaper. James Mirtle is one of the architects of The Athletic, and one of the driving forces behind their early days is the advent of advanced analytics in today’s game.
Quote:
For Mirtle, Bourne, and coaches everywhere, analytics assist in the decision-making process. It exposes players who might not score a lot but possess other numbers that still have value to a team. Numbers that earn ice time because the coach trusts them.
However... the discussion on stage at times, it becomes the self-deprecating... "HAHAHA... but actually... let me tell you what I know..." Ryan Pinder show.
The Following User Says Thank You to Boreal For This Useful Post:
Yeah Nault is definitely thin-skinned. Whenever he'd fill in for Pinder during his old morning show slot it was such a bad fit, just because they're so chirpy all the time and he's clearly the type that can't handle getting chirped. Don't be on a chirpy show if you can't take it.
I think he has a good radio voice and don't hate him the way some do, but it's pretty clear how thin-skinned he is, which is a bit silly for sports talk programming; chirps and debating are pretty much what that medium is, settle down.
The Following User Says Thank You to Sainters7 For This Useful Post:
Remember last year sometime when Nault and Krahn were going at it like they always do. Nault tried to chirp with something but he totally mumbled and bungled his way through it. Krahn immediately told him to get the marbles out of his mouth. Nault froze up and wouldn't say anything, it seemed to rattle him pretty good, he wouldn't even finish the chirp.
I always get Will Nault and Peter Klein mixed up. Klein's the one on the morning show that likes wrestling right? I think he does a good job, and is a good sport for all the ribbing. Nault is the afternoon guy? Yah, he's brutal.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to The Yen Man For This Useful Post:
I still don't mind Pinder but do think they have a bit of a balance issue on the station as a whole right now.
Boomer, Warrener, and Pinder worked because they balanced each other out. Pinders more serious analytics focused view point was balanced by Rhett being more the traditionalist and Boomer facilitated the discussion and kept it light by being a bit goofy.
Now with Pinder gone the balance is lost on the morning and now it's a bit too goofy at times. Klein is getting better at filing the "serious" role but think it will take a little time, and in the last couple weeks Boomer has reigned himself in a bit more too to try and be a bit more serious now with Pinder gone so that's helped.
The problem with the afternoon show has always been a lack of balance in the other direction. Kerr and Steinberg always took themselves a bit too serious for my liking and didn't really have a more relaxed foil to balance the show.
Now with Pinder and Steinberg it's even more prevalent because they are both analytics guys that focus on that part of the game and take it very seriously, and they just don't really have that balance. Will tries to be the foil but due to his more abrasive style it tends to end up just being bickering most of the time.
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to SuperMatt18 For This Useful Post:
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
Exp:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
I value both Steinbag and Pinder as hosts but it is becoming completely unprofessional at this point. Two days ago they go into another battle with Will Nault (I think?). All three were basically calling each other know it alls, unable to effectively debate with each other and going completely off topic. Most of this fell on Nault this time as he completely lost his cool, however, there is something sour if these guys cannot work together effectively and this keeps happening every few days.
It used to happen in the mornings as well with both Boomer and Warrener and the one constant in all of it....Pinder.
The guy is so condescending and smarmy, it sets people off. He is/was on a track to become a star in the business but he can't seemingly get out of his own way with his I'm smarter than you schtick.
He really is unlistenable and i tuned him out months ago right after he left the morning.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to transplant99 For This Useful Post:
I find myself listening less and less. It just seems like all they do is argue and push each other's button's. Or they chat about stuff like we really care about their inside joke crap. This station has really fallen off the map.
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to rotten42 For This Useful Post:
