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Old 02-12-2019, 08:51 AM   #21
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:52 AM   #22
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I was expecting at least a minor flesh wound.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:35 AM   #23
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I'd revamp all high sticking and get away from not only connecting or not, but the stupid drawing blood investigation.

2 minutes - accidental
4 minutes - careless
5 minutes (game) - intentional

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Old 02-12-2019, 09:38 AM   #24
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He swung his stick at a guys head and either narrowly missed or clipped his ear. Malkin is getting suspended and he should. Hopefully a few games.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:39 AM   #25
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No Malkin for Saturday's game would be great. Just saying.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:41 AM   #26
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He didn't hit him? That's not even a penalty.
What?

Yes it is.

60.4 Match Penalty - When, in the opinion of the Referee, a player or goalkeeper attempts to or deliberately injures an opponent while carrying or holding any part of his stick above the shoulders of the opponent, the Referee shall assess a match penalty to the offending player.
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I think he was kidding.
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I'd revamp all high sticking and get away from not only connecting or not, but the stupid drawing blood investigation.

2 minutes - accidental
4 minutes - careless
5 minutes (game) - intentional

Easy
I don't know that "easy" comes into it even though it should.

It's subjective that way and when it comes to humans and subjectivity, there is a large spectrum.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:43 AM   #29
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Malkin has always had a short temper who seems to have little concern for lashing out.
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<looks ahead at schedule>

...I hope he gets 2 games.
Pens next game is against the Oilers and the Flames the game after that... Guaranteed one game suspension.
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I'd revamp all high sticking and get away from not only connecting or not, but the stupid drawing blood investigation.

2 minutes - accidental
4 minutes - careless
5 minutes (game) - intentional

Easy
Putting aside the fact that accidental and careless are essentially synonyms, how would you consistently differentiate between the two?
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The punch in the head could have been called...pretty silly to think that would have stopped Malkin considering he instantly swings his stick.

Earlier play is just a battle
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2 games for Malkin, but Raffl shouldn't be punching him in the back of the head like that either. It isn't even allowed in the UFC.
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What I don't understand is that after the lockout the NHL decided to crack down on hooking and other similar type penalties a lot more. There was definitely a learning curve for the players, but as time went on they caught on and started to play the game differently.

Why not do the same with the slashing and other stick work? Obviously the players feel that the refs won't do anything about it and therefore they retaliate. Had there been a quick whistle there and a penalty called on Raffl, Malkin more than likely wouldn't have done anything.
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He didn't hit him? That's not even a penalty.
lol, no. That is a deliberate attempt to injure match penalty all day, every day.
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Putting aside the fact that accidental and careless are essentially synonyms, how would you consistently differentiate between the two?
I see a difference ... the lifted stick, the follow through on a shot ... not seeing the guy you hit at all - accident.

Coming into hit a guy with a stick to high, spinning with your stick up in the air - careless.
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lol, no. That is a deliberate attempt to injure match penalty all day, every day.
I guess, by the letter of the law, that's true. Generally if you don't actually connect, they don't call it.

I'm not really opposed to the NHL setting a new standard for suspensions where the intent is more important than the outcome. I think suspending to the injury causes some pretty bad incentives. That being said, if they're going to do that it should probably be as a result of GM meetings and should be implemented at the beginning of a season with a bunch of education for all the teams. Not suddenly handed down in mid-February.
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:48 AM   #38
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Lol? The most liked post is that Raffl was playing hard defense, took a light swipe across Malkin's head, so it's his fault and the refs fault for this incident?

Malkin violently swings his stick at head-height. If Malkin fully connects, that's in the same realm as McSorley. Malkin is a goon. He should be punished more severely, and is lucky his stick swing didn't connect.
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:05 AM   #39
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Lol, "playing hard defense"... there's an unbiased perspective right there.
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I guess, by the letter of the law, that's true. Generally if you don't actually connect, they don't call it.
Umm, when was the last time we've seen a guy attempt a 180 degree whip at someone's face? There is no "generally" to this scenario such that you can make this claim.

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