2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Well, I said Forsberg would instantly become the 2nd or 3rd goalie in this organization. Not why he ranks 4th in Chicagos. Looking at how "Terrible" he is with a nice old .921 save percentage in the AHL this year. That makes all of the Flames goalies in the AHL the Mike Smiths of the AHL.



Your take on Forsberg looks to be misguided.



Either way, low risk, low cost mid to high reward.

I’ve seen him play, there is a reason they dumped him for a ECL lottery pick.

Stats aren’t everything in small sample sizes.

But I agree he’d be cheap to acquire and it’s not like Smith is a high standard to achieve.

But I’m pretty convinced he’s bad, but Smith 2019 bad? Maybe not.

But I’m not always right LOL.


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[killer_carlson]

Just listened to a clip from Jason Gregor's and Ryan Rishaug's radio show where Craig Button was the guest. Button opined that Calgary needs a goalie to back up Rittich and suggested that was a spot for Talbot.

Nothing that hasn't been said here before, but fairly blunt assessment by Button at the 19:33 mark of the interview. "I think the Flames need some support for David Rittich and I don't think Mike Smith is the answer"

https://soundcloud.com/thejasongrego...n-ryan-rishaug

[FlamesAddiction]

Someone mentioned Pavel Francouz a while back. He would be a total roll of the dice, but might come cheap. He is a 28 year old Czech free agent signing by the Avs. Seems like the age a lot of goalies come into their own.

His European stats were great and showed an upward trajectory and progression in both stats and difficulty of leagues.

In 30 AHL games, he is top 10 in save percentage and has a 1.98 GAA and 0.943 S% in 2 NHL games (both losses though). I know the sample size is small, but at the very least, we could place him in Stockton and then bring him in if something were to happen to Rittich and Smith was failing. Of course, we would likely have to ship out an AHL goalie in return to make room.

Being a cheap player, it wouldn't mean we would have to get rid of Smith and maybe he could be Rittich's partner next season. At this point, I don't have a lot faith that we have anyone in our own system ready.

I guess it depends on whether the Avs are going to resign Varlamov or sign a different vet, or if they plan on going with Grubauer and Francouz next season.

[killer_carlson]

Given how tight the East is, should Columbus go on a bit of a fall the next 10 days they could get passed by Pitts, Carolina and /or Buffalo.

I wonder if Panarin and Bob would be traded as a package.

[TheScorpion]

I think the Avs are keeping Francouz. Neither Grubauer nor Varlamov have been great this year and they'll need someone to tandem with Grubauer next year when Varlamov walks.

[TheRealPepman]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

I’ve been saying this for a while, but after his performance today vs the Jets, it’s settled for me. The Flames should go after Anders Nilsson. Cost shouldn’t be too high based on what he was traded for earlier in the season.

He’s big, tracks the puck well and has good reflexes for a big man. On a good team like the Flames he could really reach his potential. He inspires confidence that I don’t seem to get from Smith. Do it Tre!


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Nilssson played with Backlund last spring too when they won the IIHF World Championship.

[Bourque's Twin]

I think Jake Allen would be a good acquisition if the Blues agreed to retain some salary. He’s not a #1 but he’s a good #1B. Unless Rittich takes the Flames to the cup (which he might), he will likely sign a bridge deal. Having Rittich and Allen split starts for the next year or 2 in a 52-30 ratio would be good. It would allow Rittich to establish himself as a “Kipper” like starter who can play 65+ games.

Also, I think Maroon would be a great acquisition from the Blues as he adds size and grit and can play up and down the lineup.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

I think Jake Allen would be a good acquisition if the Blues agreed to retain some salary. He’s not a #1 but he’s a good #1B. Unless Rittich takes the Flames to the cup (which he might), he will likely sign a bridge deal. Having Rittich and Allen split starts for the next year or 2 in a 52-30 ratio would be good. It would allow Rittich to establish himself as a “Kipper” like starter who can play 65+ games.

Also, I think Maroon would be a great acquisition from the Blues as he adds size and grit and can play up and down the lineup.

Also Blues are not going away from a playoff spot and have been one of the hottest teams in the NHL in 2019.

They won’t be looking to off load players.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Given how tight the East is, should Columbus go on a bit of a fall the next 10 days they could get passed by Pitts, Carolina and /or Buffalo.

I wonder if Panarin and Bob would be traded as a package.

They could be but Calgary likely would need to trade their next two 1st round picks plus one of their you d-men plus maybe more.

That’s not going to happen.


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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

I think Jake Allen would be a good acquisition if the Blues agreed to retain some salary. He’s not a #1 but he’s a good #1B. Unless Rittich takes the Flames to the cup (which he might), he will likely sign a bridge deal. Having Rittich and Allen split starts for the next year or 2 in a 52-30 ratio would be good. It would allow Rittich to establish himself as a “Kipper” like starter who can play 65+ games.



Also, I think Maroon would be a great acquisition from the Blues as he adds size and grit and can play up and down the lineup.

Blues would like to make the playoffs rather than simply help Calgary for fun.


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[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Jimdon

Spending assets to upgrade a backup goalie position seems like a waste to me. We need to be worried about playoffs, not trying to scrape another few wins in the regular season. If Rittich falters in the playoffs or gets injured does anyone honestly think that upgrading the backup will carry the Flames to the cup?

Who was the last team that won a cup after their starter went down and the backup had to take over? Fleury and the penguins aren't a relevant example either.

I think a fantastic backup would increase the Flames' cup chances more than a random depth winger would.

Goaltending is extremely important. Even backups are important. Especially in the playoffs.

Again, this is becoming more and more obvious after each game.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I think a fantastic backup would increase the Flames' cup chances more than a random depth winger would.



Goaltending is extremely important. Even backups are important. Especially in the playoffs.



Again, this is becoming more and more obvious after each game.

Back ups seldom if ever help you win the SC.

They do help you make the playoffs,

It’s basically the opposite.


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[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Back ups seldom if ever help you win the SC.

They do help you make the playoffs,

It’s basically the opposite.


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You still need a contingency plan:

Darling in 2015 won 3 of 4 after Crawford crapped the bed to start the playoffs
Fleury in 2017 beat the caps singlehandedly while the Penguins were outplayed and Murray was injured.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

You still need a contingency plan:



Darling in 2015 won 3 of 4 after Crawford crapped the bed to start the playoffs

Fleury in 2017 beat the caps singlehandedly while the Penguins were outplayed and Murray was injured.

I was the one who brought up Darling. But Crawford was the one who beat Nashville and won the Cup.

Fleury was actually the #1 goalie when the season started LOL.

Forsberg ain’t winning any cup LOL.


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[bluejays]

What's Luongo's contract status? Certainly he loves Florida, but there hasn't been a peep of any rumors involving him. He'd make a perfect backup for any team I'd think.

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by fleury

What's Luongo's contract status? Certainly he loves Florida, but there hasn't been a peep of any rumors involving him. He'd make a perfect backup for any team I'd think.

Almost 40 with 3 years left

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Almost 40 with 3 years left

Well that is that LOL.


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[FlamesAddiction]

Darryl Sutter once said after a minor trade that it doesn't matter if you get better by a little or by a lot, as long as the the trade makes the team better.

The 2nd goalie slot is an obvious deficiency on this team. Not trying to get better, if even by a little, would be negligent. Fortunately, I have faith that Treliving probably considers every position on the team important. Goaltending has not been stellar lately in general.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Darryl Sutter once said after a minor trade that it doesn't matter if you get better by a little or by a lot, as long as the the trade makes the team better.

The 2nd goalie slot is an obvious deficiency on this team. Not trying to get better, if even by a little, would be negligent. Fortunately, I have faith that Treliving probably considers every position on the team important. Goaltending has not been stellar lately in general.

Of course, Sutter was a horrible GM.

In a cap world, it’s not as simple as that,

You can make the team better today, but make them worse in the future big time..


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[bluejays]

Let's face it - unless the Flames are willing to throw in a 2nd, and eat a ton of Smith's money, they're stuck with him. I don't know if anyone could've seen this coming (I personally thought it was a good pickup at the time), but no team can honestly justify taking him on, and the Flames can't justify dealing him away for a high price for a backup goaltender. You'd do that if he was your starter, but as a backup they're in a tough position.