2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Nelson

https://twitter.com/ryannpike/status...854085632?s=21

Does anyone have a plausible explanation for Schneider being called up to the Heat?

Stockton Heat @AHLHeat
NEWS: Heat have recalled goalie Nick Schneider from @kc_mavericks.

Tyler Parsons and Scott Sabourin will not dress tonight due to illness.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

Well like everyone else around here I would prefer to keep our first but I look at it as a similar trade made last year by the jets to acquire Stasny. That cost them a first so maybe a trade involving Lazar and ? ?



Not sure why he wouldn’t want to be traded to a contending team and not are why the wild wouldn’t be interested in getting something for him rather than losing him for nothing

Lazar has no value, so that plus needs to start with 1st.

Wild are fighting for a playoff spot, and are a number of points clear right now.

Now I get they have some injuries, but the teams chasing them all stink, so they still have a reasonable chance.


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[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I am still totally on board with trying to add Zuccarello.

It's Hayes that I always thought was a perfect fit for this team.
think of having this as a 3rd line:
Bennett - Hayes - Neal

...and bumping Janko down on the wing with Ryan and Hathaway.

just studly!

[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Staal would be a good addition, but I just don't see things in Minnesota going far South enough for them to be moving him in two weeks.

This fits the same way as my above post about Hayes....and could be cheaper. I like it.

Also, them losing Koivu, and losing to Edmonton (E=NG) means maybe they DO fall out in 2 weeks....Just sayin....

[ForeverFlameFan]

I think the Flames are fine with centers at the moment. If a center goes down, you can always utilize Bennett or Lindholm to take the draws. I think what we need more is a solid middle 6 RW that can move down Frolik to the 4th line.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - X
Bennett - Jankowski - Neal
Frolik - Ryan - Hathaway
Mangiapane, Czarnik

I think moving Czarnik, possibly our 2019 1st (or a lower pick), Mangiapane, etc could land us a decent winger. Frolik could even be traded too with the whole agent fiasco.

Zuccarello, Ma. Stone, or Panarin would be wonderful candidates that could fit on that 2nd line. If we landed one of those three we would be a lethal team. I just hope we don't pay too much for one.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I would honestly rather keep Lazar. He is fast, gritty, defensively responsible and his development has been completely stalled from entering the NHL too early. I am really curious how Lazar would do if called up to the Flames and given a decent look. I also believe his trade value is next to zero - you aren't going to get anything back other than another potentially failed prospect, or at the very best, someone slightly younger who could use a 'change of scenery'. There is just little point in any trade proposals that involve Lazar with him having that negligible of value, and he could prove to be a useful depth player for the Flames for the playoffs if injuries happen.


Panarin I would love, but that is going to be a pricey add for what would probably (not assuredly, but most probably) be just a rental. Him playing with Tkachuk and Backlund might be reminiscent of Tkacuk's time in London playing with Dvorak and Marner. That's pretty tempting, as essentially the Flames would have 2 1st lines.


Stone is still my 'dream' target. Big, playmaking, elite defensively winger that can make the already dominant-possession line even more dominant, while increasing scoring and making match-ups for the other team a nightmare. Would be a nightmare for Treliving to find a way to re-sign here, but there is that potential.



Zuccarello would be a really great fit on the team, and would be cheaper to acquire. He is definitely high on my list, but again I think he would come in just as a rental. He is 31 right now making 4.5 million on an expiring contract. I wonder what his contract demands would be. I would rather not give term to a guy who is already past the age of 30.


Hayes would be the superior target from the Rangers, but his cost is going to be high. I also think he is going to look for a bump from his 5.175 contract. He is only 26 and fits in well with the age of this team, however. I just think that his acquisition cost will be too prohibitive, especially considering that at age 26, one can reasonably expect that the Rangers would just keep him around for the rebuild if their price isn't met.



The talk about Kovalchuk vs Neal is moot. To replace Neal with Kovalchuk, Treliving would have to find another team to take Neal. Why? Trading your UFA signing who came to your team 'wanting to win', while also reportedly being a really classy player in the dressing room, especially sending him to the last place team in the league... that's a pretty terrible thing to do. I worry about Neal. I am wondering if Neal will ever come close to earning his contract. I see a guy who is trying out there. Some may point to his shooting percentage and hoping that the difference is no more than just 'bad luck' or 'adjusting to a new team'. I see a guy who isn't putting himself in areas that he should be getting to, or taking too long to get his shot off when he does. Kovalchuk SHOULD produce on the Flames (though there is no guarantee), but you also have to know Kovalchuk and figure out if he is a positive locker room presence. You don't want to disrupt the chemistry on the team, and having a disruptive presence can do just that.


Toffoli would be a great add, but I think LA would want too much for him, especially with being a divisional rival. Still, he is only 26, plays center and shoots right - convert him to RW on the Backlund line, and you COULD have a strong 1B line. Keep him at center, and play him in-between Bennett and whomever on the RW. That also has great potential. Bonus is that he shouldn't disrupt the room either, as he and Monahan are buddies. 4.6 million this year and signed for next year.



Nyquist would be a great addition for the 2nd or third line. Good two-way player. He is on an expiring contract, and he shouldn't be too pricey to acquire. However, he is 29 already. Is he going to be looking for term on any re-signing? I would rather not re-sign a player who will already be 30 to a 5+ year extension.



Mantha is not rumoured to be out there, but I would take a look there. Huge with skill and skating ability. He has zero playoff experience in the NHL, but he did lead his AHL squad in points. Don't think Detroit is going to be selling him, but can't hurt to ask. Before he suits up for the Flames though, he has to lay down and have Hamonic pound him for a full minute first.


Brouwer would be... ok, I can't keep a straight face on this one. haha


Hoffman would be a good add, but you can be sure he is going to go for a much higher price than what Florida acquired him for. There is no issue with Hoffman - and he even got along with Erik Karlsson and talked to him during that ruckus there. Still, you do have to wonder about the girlfriend and how the other wives and girlfriends would feel. Strange to have to think of that, but she seemed to be generally disliked by the wives overall in Ottawa, whether or not (and seems like not) she was involved in any of the purported social media stupidity. A shade under 5.2 million through next year, so he fits in with the salary structure nicely, and is only 28.



Duchene might be a good add - he certainly puts up points and he is an incredible skater. I just wonder about how he would fit in the room. IIRC, he was 'part of the problem' in Colorado, and, IF IIRC, he was also one of the 'taxi guys' in Ottawa. For me, that makes me a bit leery about adding him to that room. He is also going to be an expensive re-sign. Is he really worth what he is asking? I don't know.


Dzingel would be a great depth add, but I bet the cost will surprise people. What I like about him is how well and consistently he has developed. Every year he has improved consistently. He is 26 right now, and is a good testament to how patience pays off. Would love to snag him and use him as a third line center. 1.8 million this year, UFA next. 52 games, 20 goals, 20 assists. He hit 23 goals and 18 assist last season, so he is definitely not a 'one hit wonder'. He needs to be talked about more, but I guess that will come when the Sens figure out what to do with Duchene and/or Stone.


From Philly, I am really only looking at Couturier. There were rumours earlier that Philly was willing to take a look at trading him. If those rumours were true, he is my 2nd overall trade target. He is big, can skate, and is one of the NHL's premier 2-way players. Flames would instantly have 2 second lines that are both capable of shutting down opposing teams' top lines. Bennett I bet would look great next to him. I would be willing to move this year's first, plus next year's first... and would even think about adding to that. I think he is that good. So good, I am going to stop now and do some daydreaming.

[UKflames]

With Panarin going on record as saying that he going to test free agency, then he becomes a big no for me (if we went down that road), why waste the assets it would take to get him if you know he isn't staying.
And all this BS about not knowing what team he wants to go to is laughable. You don't get to the pay day he is expecting without some prefferred options, if the money is right.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by UKflames

With Panarin going on record as saying that he going to test free agency, then he becomes a big no for me (if we went down that road), why waste the assets it would take to get him if you know he isn't staying.
And all this BS about not knowing what team he wants to go to is laughable. You don't get to the pay day he is expecting without some prefferred options, if the money is right.

He didn’t say he wasn’t staying, just that he’s going to test UFA, as virtually all players do at this stage.

I don’t recall any trade deadline player agreeing to terms with their new team immediately after the deadline.

Of course he likely has some preferred options, as virtually all players who test UFA have. But that doesn’t mean that those teams necessarily want him and can meet his asking price.


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[iamca]

Still feel strongly that the Flames need to be looking for a goaltender before they add depth at a forward position.

I don't see anyone providing names of potential goalies that Tre could be adding before the deadline, but I think it should be a priority.

Just my nickel's worth...

[Lanny_McDonald]

If this team is serious about moving the first rounder, the only players mentioned that are really interesting are Toffoli ($4.6M), Mantha ($3.3M), and Couturier ($4.3M). All come with an extra year, or three in Cout's case, and fit nicely in the cap space. Moving out Frolik in the deal, or at the draft, pretty much balances out the cap hit increase.

Toffoli would be my target and ultimately may be the easiest to pull in, as he's having a bit of a down year, but I think he has the highest potential to really click with the team. I can see him and Tkachuk immediately gelling and being a massive pain in the ass to play against.

The only thing I don't like about these targets is they really don't address the pressing need of the team. This team needs a goaltender, full stop. I'm not sure I see anyone out there available that I would give up a first rounder for, but this is the area of greatest concern. Maybe a package with Detroit where we get Nyqvist and Howard, but that is a stretch IMO. Howard for a 3rd and a 4th? Still not sure I do that based on the depth of the organization.

Tough deadline as our system doesn't have a lot to move, and there isn't a real perfect fit. If pressed to make a move, Toffoli is the guy.

[Matty81]

Toffoli would be a great target... Didnt realize how good his all around game was till recently. I think Couturier would cost more than the flames can offer. And I honestly wonder if the group would welcome Mantha into the locker room after what he did to Hamonic last year. There was so much made of the little push Manning made on mcdavid and how Mgmt made a point to clear the trade with him...

What Mantha did was twice as bad. But who knows maybe he apologized and it's all good. Given the way him and athanesciu (Sp) act like punks on ice apology and showing some class seems doubtful.

[keenan87]

I wish the Flames can get "happy to see you".. such an awesome name

[oldschoolcalgary]

whatever they do, i hope that if they trade the first round pick and/ or a good prospect/young player (Dube/Pettersson/Vilimaki/Kylington/Anderson) its not for a rental...it would have to be for a >28 player with term

if they trade a second and a B prospect for a rental i'm good...

[Matty81]

For me Kylington is worth more than the late 1st, he's establishing himself as a young NHL dman with upside... Those are worth a ton. I wouldn't like to see him traded without a real good package coming back.

I think Toffoli is a great target. Twitter saying kings want a first but teams are offering a second. Also like to see them add a goalie like forsberg from Chicago as Smith insurance for Gillies and a pick. Would not need to pass waivers and would improve depth and Stockton chance. Gillies is gone this offseason anyway.

I don't know about adding a dman anymore with valimaki healthy if Valiev is passable that is 9 dmen to cover for injuries. Prout has looked good and his advanced stats back that up. Would have to be a cheap upgrade on Valiev

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Matty81

For me Kylington is worth more than the late 1st, he's establishing himself as a young NHL dman with upside... Those are worth a ton. I wouldn't like to see him traded without a real good package coming back.

I think Toffoli is a great target. Twitter saying kings want a first but teams are offering a second. Also like to see them add a goalie like forsberg from Chicago as Smith insurance for Gillies and a pick. Would not need to pass waivers and would improve depth and Stockton chance. Gillies is gone this offseason anyway.

I don't know about adding a dman anymore with valimaki healthy if Valiev is passable that is 9 dmen to cover for injuries. Prout has looked good and his advanced stats back that up. Would have to be a cheap upgrade on Valiev

I'm not sure anybody would want Gillies on his one way contract next year I believe? I could be wrong though.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by New Era

If this team is serious about moving the first rounder, the only players mentioned that are really interesting are Toffoli ($4.6M), Mantha ($3.3M), and Couturier ($4.3M). All come with an extra year, or three in Cout's case, and fit nicely in the cap space. Moving out Frolik in the deal, or at the draft, pretty much balances out the cap hit increase.

Toffoli would be my target and ultimately may be the easiest to pull in, as he's having a bit of a down year, but I think he has the highest potential to really click with the team. I can see him and Tkachuk immediately gelling and being a massive pain in the ass to play against.

The only thing I don't like about these targets is they really don't address the pressing need of the team. This team needs a goaltender, full stop. I'm not sure I see anyone out there available that I would give up a first rounder for, but this is the area of greatest concern. Maybe a package with Detroit where we get Nyqvist and Howard, but that is a stretch IMO. Howard for a 3rd and a 4th? Still not sure I do that based on the depth of the organization.

Tough deadline as our system doesn't have a lot to move, and there isn't a real perfect fit. If pressed to make a move, Toffoli is the guy.

Why? What's wrong with Rittich? Don't you have to see how he performs in the playoffs before deciding he needs to be replaced?

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by memphusk

I'm not sure anybody would want Gillies on his one way contract next year I believe? I could be wrong though.

Trading him in a deal for a fringe NHL goalie is more about clearing the spot in Stockton. He looks like an echl goalie this year.

When he was at providence he looked like a future nhler for sure... Such a disappointing few seasons.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Why? What's wrong with Rittich? Don't you have to see how he performs in the playoffs before deciding he needs to be replaced?

I like Rittich, however I believe he has played to many games and his play is going to drop in the second half...

I agree with the comments on other goalies, not sure there is any fix out there.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by flambers

I like Rittich, however I believe he has played to many games and his play is going to drop in the second half...

I agree with the comments on other goalies, not sure there is any fix out there.

Well if 32 appearances are to many, then for sure he needs to be upgraded as there is a looong way to go still.

Though its pretty obvious that IF he does need to be replaced as the starter, that will not happen now. That's a move that can really only happen at the draft or in FA.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Well if 32 appearances are to many, then for sure he needs to be upgraded as there is a looong way to go still.

Though its pretty obvious that IF he does need to be replaced as the starter, that will not happen now. That's a move that can really only happen at the draft or in FA.

Oh I agree I don't see any replacement out there for the Flames..