Calgarypuck Mafia Game Thread

[Hockeyguy15]

Post #798 from Scornfire I don't think has been really looked at much.

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I still think I could be on the right path that GGG was with two new posters and one voted Bonded. I'm more confident in that theory than voting mrkajz for banning.

I know Scornfire has thought something similar, but that's only 2 votes and we need at least 3 for a deadline ban. I would prefer to vote DropIt but not much is going on today again, so I will put my vote on mrkajz for now so we at least meet the minimum.

I still have trouble wrapping my head around votes 4, 5, and 6 on Bonded had one Oiler in them. That's what's really making me not want to vote for them, hense my alternative theory idea. I suppose the idea than Oiler voted Bonded early is less crazy than the theory I threw out last night.

I'm out skiing the rest of the afternoon but will check back in. I'm willing to help move the vote obviously, but I would feel most comfortable with Winnipeg over anyone else, as per my post last night.

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[Scornfire]

I'm voting DropIt again, I just like the play too much from a Troll perspective. I'd 100% be willing to risk that tying vote as a troll to build cred when the only other non voter had been verbally defending the other troll prior to him casting his vote. As a Flames fan I had no intention of voting after we reached threshold, to tie it without any strong suspicions never even crossed my mind

[Scornfire]

Vote: DropIt

[Hockeyguy15]

Unvote: mrkajz44

[Hockeyguy15]

vote: DropIt

[Hockeyguy15]

I will be around for the deadline tonight, and if no one else votes I will be moving back to mrkajz to prevent a no ban scenario.

[devo22]

after reading back a bit, I see Scorns point about DropIt and am willing to make the jump as well.

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I still think I could be on the right path that GGG was with two new posters and one voted Bonded. I'm more confident in that theory than voting mrkajz for banning.

I know Scornfire has thought something similar, but that's only 2 votes and we need at least 3 for a deadline ban. I would prefer to vote DropIt but not much is going on today again, so I will put my vote on mrkajz for now so we at least meet the minimum.

No point in wasting a vote to build cred when they have their full team. With one down and one on the way down, that's when they play balls to the wall and gamble on that day 2 vote.

[devo22]

unvote: mrkajz44

[devo22]

vote: DropIt

Going back through votes and comparing Scorn and Drop it.... I could see one playing the other as a patsy...My gut says Scorn is using Drop it as his goat.

[DropIt]

I'd like to get a post in before kill pls

[DropIt]

I think one vote away from kill? This is too bad as I'll be flipping town, and again we will be losing 2 in one night.

I will agree with MrK here as it will obviously save me, but to think the Mafia set up someone like me from the end of day 1 to kill off one of my own, rather then to kill off a townie, is quite the reach.

Just think for a second of the 2 outcomes: either I kill off a flames fan( Agulati/scorn) and can easily play the "I have nothing to base this on, sucks that we banned a Flames fan" at the end of day 1 and keep our numbers.
Instead its being suggested that I, instead killed off my own guy, ruining our numbers, and then (poorly) tried to take heat of GGG when he was in the midst of a self-spiral so the whole game could come down to me trying to beat an entire game of Flames fans? That's a huge stretch to say the Mafia would voluntarily kill off their own day 1 to try and set the table for days 3 and on.

As I said earlier, MrK needs to be listened to more, and not just because he is echoing my theory on HG, but because it just flat makes more sense that the Mafia began to panic when Bonded was nearing kill, so they set out GGG to take the heat off him (because 3G wasnt the proxy), when that didnt work they had to adjust as it was going to become easy to see GGG was an Oiler after backing Bonded the way he did and trying desperately to get the vote elsewhere.

So with that, their only choice of action was to sacrifice GGG when Bonded was killed and had to set up their Proxy Oiler to head that up.

This is why HG is suspicious to me, he hits all those markers.
- Didnt vote Bonded, but didnt lobby one way or the other for him.
- once Bonded was killed, went right after GGG, exploiting his Bonded defenses
- headed up, along with diss, the kill for GGG with his overwhelming evidence
- Gained town favour by doing so
- is now slowly picking off players two at a time, and was even quick to vote MRK yesterday, whether he had his days mixed or not, this still ends in 2 Flames kills and the arrow would be pointed even more in my direction for bringing him up and potentially being the one to kill off yet another Flames fan

My question still stands, everyone knew HG15 is a strong player and is successfully lobbying for kills and getting the votes and people to listen, why would Mafia chance keeping him around all game in the case that his sights were to turn to them?

[DropIt]

If I do indeed get offed today, I would personally say that we should be looking at HG15, WPG (GGG atrocity) and MRK/Devo. I think the idea that mafia wouldn't dare vote on Bonded is holding up at this point as it looks like, with me, 4/6 of the vote on Bonded will turn Flames fan.

I've got like 3 more hours and will be both trying g to change votes and will answer any suspicions or questions if there are any

[devo22]

Originally Posted by DropIt

My question still stands, everyone knew HG15 is a strong player and is successfully lobbying for kills and getting the votes and people to listen, why would Mafia chance keeping him around all game in the case that his sights were to turn to them?

kill someone else, say "how has HG not been nightkilled? He must be the Oiler then!" and try having him lynched. Possible. Wouldn't be a bad play if you were the Oiler, but nobody has jumped on it yet.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by devo22

whoops, got that wrong - agulati had 4 votes, not 5. So Scorn and Bonded were tied. Still no reason for Scorn to kill his buddy in that instance - a tie would have resulted in no lynch.

So my question to you devo is that you support Scorn at this point, saying it would be stupid for Scorn to kill his mafia buddy.

Why would it not be just as stupid (or more) for me to tie the vote between Agulati and Bonded when Ags was LEADING at the time of my vote?

If I vote Agulati the votes go 6-4-4 in favour of an Agulati kill and I save my mafia buddy.
So HG is claiming that at this pinnacle point, instead I killed off my own guy, let GGG fall on his own sword in which I didnt really get involved in his killing to gain favour with the town, and then try and hope people dont latch on to me the last 5 days? Cone on

HG claims I killed off my own guy in Bonded to gain favour, why wouldn't I continue to do so in the involvement in killing GGG? I didnt hunt him down or pick apart his posts to make myself look like a mafia hunter. Wouldn't that be the point in the first case in killing off Bonded?

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Scornfire

To answer that quote, Why would you tie up a vote that was already AT Threshold without much justification?

From my PoV, It's great cover down the road and there's a greater than average chance that based on my posts to that point (Arguing against Fuzz's reasoning, backing up Bonded) that I don't vote Bonded day 1

This is the same line of thinking GGG has in post #383 but he doesn't explore your culpability in that vote here at all



My response;

Because it makes no sense. If I'm town it's simply voting for one of the 2 leading candidates, if im mafia it is again potentially putting my own teammates head on the block when it doesnt need to be. I'd be essentially killing off 2 of my own teammates in order to sit back and hope someone doesnt come after me?

I'm guessing GGG looked past me because he was trying to point the fi ger elsewhere and I was not an easy target, see I g as how I had such a large hand in getting our a mafia member.

[WinnipegFan]

Alright if the town is voting DropIt I can live with that he is one of the two I suspected. Mrk has been better at explaining his actions but he is still on my watch list.

[WinnipegFan]

I would vote now but don't want to hammer if people want to wait. I will give it another hour then vote if people are ok with it.