Calgarypuck Mafia Game Thread

[DropIt]

Double post sorry.

I'm going to confirm my suspicions, maybe it's me but mrk seems to be pretty agreeable with almost everyone. Almost too nice/agreeable.

I noticed as mafia members were depleting as were his pist numbers. Possibly a sign that without the guidance/support if other mafia members he became more cautious of what he was putting out there

Originally Posted by DropIt

Double post sorry.

I'm going to confirm my suspicions, maybe it's me but mrk seems to be pretty agreeable with almost everyone. Almost too nice/agreeable.

I kinda had that feeling about you all game.

[DropIt]

4 hours at night. Not a peep. Disappointing.

[mrkajz44]

Hi all - apologies for the lack of activity here. Made the trip up to Panorama today and it was a bit more of an adventure with a 2 month old than expected. Just got in and finished dinner, so I'm here to give my thoughts. I'll address items as I go through the thread.

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Can you revisit this for me and explain why you voted me instead of GGG? Picking me over GGG because of the bizaro ban doesn't make sense to me.

HG - I picked you because I was trying to make sense of the bizaro ban. He was the only person to even mention you as a possibility to ban, so I thought that maybe the Oilers were trying to get rid of the only person that had some suspicion about you.

I picked you over GGG mostly because it seemed like everyone wanted to go after GGG and I thought it was too easy for everyone to just pick him off. I really expected more resistance from his teammate. As such, I wanted to explore different possibilities and see if others agreed.

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Without going back through the whole thread has it been addressed why WPG voted for GGG on day 2, pulled out when that picked up steam and invited, only to set him up with a self kill? I know it was discussed but can someone direct me to post # of WPGs explanation? Or where we have cleared him?

This isn't a redirection attempt either. Keep grilling me HG

I've gone back and couldn't really see a good explanation myself. The reason for his first vote was such:

Alright so GGG thinks my lamentations are fake, it would take some serious Oiler dirtbag to call a guy out for lamenting the loss of a fellow. He gets my vote.

I didn't really see anything on the unvote and revote, but I had always assumed the unvote was due to the mod reveal and then the revote from the Fuzz reveal.

Perhaps Winnipeg can answer to this best?

[WinnipegFan]

Originally Posted by WinnipegFan

Thank you fuzz. I hope you make it through the night. GGG you fooled me, but now back to the rope Oiler scum

Post # 506

I said that GGG fooled me and I voted for him again after Fuzz's reveal. The original GGG vote was in response to his attempt to target me, but you claim that all my votes are revenge because of the first one. However, I do read everything in order to see why they chose me, and this is motivated by revenge but the only vote that was purely revenge was the first one as on day 1 there wasn't much to go on. I explained why I was suspicious of Scorn in detail, but this is a game and I enjoyed our banter. I was wrong about SebC and stated so, but I was not alone in that error.

Currently my spider sense are pointing to DropIt or mrK but I am lacking enough details to put together a theory. I am seriously struggling at this point and the silence in this place from most suggests we all are.

[WinnipegFan]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

Hi all - apologies for the lack of activity here. Made the trip up to Panorama today and it was a bit more of an adventure with a 2 month old than expected. Just got in and finished dinner, so I'm here to give my thoughts. I'll address items as I go through the thread.

Off topic but I had to give you Kudos for traveling with a 2 month old. We did the same and it pushed me to my limits a few times. But now back to the game

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by DropIt

I wish diss, Biz and 3G dodnt have to get booted if only for what they brought to the game.

MRK and WPG, I'd specifically like go hear more from you. WPG for reasons I posted and I've noticed MRK has had a ton of latch on posts. Agreeing with a lot of content but not creating much... he seems to agree with almost everyone else's theories. Maybe trying to cling on to people after losing your mafia friends

That's my initial feeling of course, I dont have time to pick through this thread after this particular time

I will admit that a lot of posts could feel this way. Often times I read other's peoples' theories and they sound good at first blush. I usually mention this to support an idea and maybe give it some legs. However, I wouldn't really say I'm agreeing with everyone else's ideas and latching on - my votes have clearly shown that I'm not afraid to put my ideas to the test and not necessarily follow the crowd.

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by WinnipegFan

Post # 506

I said that GGG fooled me and I voted for him again after Fuzz's reveal. The original GGG vote was in response to his attempt to target me, but you claim that all my votes are revenge because of the first one. However, I do read everything in order to see why they chose me, and this is motivated by revenge but the only vote that was purely revenge was the first one as on day 1 there wasn't much to go on. I explained why I was suspicious of Scorn in detail, but this is a game and I enjoyed our banter. I was wrong about SebC and stated so, but I was not alone in that error.

Currently my spider sense are pointing to DropIt or mrK but I am lacking enough details to put together a theory. I am seriously struggling at this point and the silence in this place from most suggests we all are.

Okay - thanks for the clarity. Sometimes it is super hard to find explanations amid all the posts. The unvote and vote honestly seems reasonable to me.

[WinnipegFan]

No worries, I totally agree it took me forever to put together my theory post about Scorn only to believe that I was wrong, but I understand the importance of it now to put details to your gut feeling as it gave him a fair opportunity to defend his position rather than our continued banter. I also didn't like being called the worst player here so I upped my efforts but I can't post during the day, and I won't miss time with my now two year old when I get home, so I am a night poster.

[mrkajz44]

Alright - I've been able to do a pretty good re-read and will give my views overall:

DropIt - The vote on Bonded is too strong evidence for me to think he is Oilers - I have him sitting at Flames fan for now

Scornfire - Pretty much the same as DropIt - the vote on Bonded is too strong evidence for me to think he is Oilers. DropIt and Scornfire were votes 5 and 6 against Bonded - I just can't see Oilers making either of these moves

Puxlut - I'm in the middle here. Does seem to try and drive conversation, but sometimes I feel like the analysis on her own isn't great. Likes to let others drive, but this is consistent with prior games. She was also a vote on Bonded and expressed willingness to vote GGG but for hammer. I'm leaning Flames fan here

Winnipeg - The only thing I can really glean here is he seems genuine in his posts. One could argue his games hasn't been great strategically (which might also be said of my play), but the posts just ring true to me and feels like a Flames fan doing their best to help. I don't love his votes against Scornfire since I think Scorn is essentially Flames confirmed due to the Bonded vote, and his other votes have been against Flames fan. The flip-flop on GGG appears genuine and was a vote against the Oilers. He's a bit of a toss up, but I lean Flames fan again

Devo & HG - I'm lumping these two together as I'm getting the same vibe from them. My re-read of Day 2 gets my spidey senses tingling. Both Devo and HG seem to be attacking GGG and getting the votes going his way, which makes them seem very Flames fan.

However, I have a theory - hear me out on this. Imagine you are Oilers and on day 1 you lose a close vote with one of your own being voted out. There are 6 likely Flames fans on the Bonded vote, so their places to hide suddenly are much smaller. (this still assumes zero Oilers voted against Bonded). They hatch a plan with the idea that one of them goes after the other to try and build a wall between them. Then the votes suddenly start coming down on one of them. They decide on Plan A and B. Plan A was to do the mod reveal and hope to save themselves, but Plan B was the long game. They let another Oiler fall, but in doing so establish the other as a likely Flames fan. Who would suspect a player that started the banning of the second Oiler in 2 nights? The rest of the Flames fans then bicker between each other and they help drive the conversation each day against one of them. It's a lying around type game in plain sight.

HG and Devo both sort of fall into this theory. Their only votes for a banning versus an Oiler was GGG, and the rest of their votes sit with mostly unknown players (only Devo has one vote against confirmed Flames fan Crazy - all the rest of their votes are against players still in the game). It's a great strategy - the Oiler can point at other Flames fan's votes and say "look! they votes against confirmed Flames fans!" while their own vote sits against unknown players. By controlling who is banned in the night, they can keep around players they voted for and stay neutral.

So long winded for both these players, but I have my doubts with them. I just can't really pry them apart. If I had to decide, Devo seems to drive more and HG seems to wait just a bit more, making him feel more Oiler to me. His whole "are we letting GGG off?" post could be brilliant as this has convinced me for a while that he is Flames fan.

[mrkajz44]

Vote: Hockeyguy15

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

HG - I picked you because I was trying to make sense of the bizaro ban. He was the only person to even mention you as a possibility to ban, so I thought that maybe the Oilers were trying to get rid of the only person that had some suspicion about you.

I picked you over GGG mostly because it seemed like everyone wanted to go after GGG and I thought it was too easy for everyone to just pick him off. I really expected more resistance from his teammate. As such, I wanted to explore different possibilities and see if others agreed.

So night 1 take out the only person who had any suspicion of me, knowing that people will look at his post and see that. This is after losing Bonded on day 1, and then I vote GGG on day 2.

[devo22]

as the only one who hasn't voted on an Oiler, I'd come up with such a theory too I mean, there's a good chance the last Oiler is hiding amongst those six who did vote for Oilers. The question is why he/she would have done it. The Bonded voters had no reason to choose their buddy over agulati. The GGG voters had no reason to make it 2 Oiler lynches on 2 days.

[devo22]

the only one in there that still kind of irks me is WinnipegFan, who voted after the Fuzz reveal and set up GGGs suicide. But that can easily be a town vote by a new player too.

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

So night 1 take out the only person who had any suspicion of me, knowing that people will look at his post and see that. This is after losing Bonded on day 1, and then I vote GGG on day 2.

Well, yes. That's what my post says. Bizaro's suspicions of you were minor at best, so why not take him out before those suspicions grow? The vote on GGG was my "long game" idea. Allows for hiding in plain sight.

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[Hockeyguy15]

I still think I could be on the right path that GGG was with two new posters and one voted Bonded. I'm more confident in that theory than voting mrkajz for banning.

I know Scornfire has thought something similar, but that's only 2 votes and we need at least 3 for a deadline ban. I would prefer to vote DropIt but not much is going on today again, so I will put my vote on mrkajz for now so we at least meet the minimum.

[Hockeyguy15]

vote: mrkajz44

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I still think I could be on the right path that GGG was with two new posters and one voted Bonded. I'm more confident in that theory than voting mrkajz for banning.

I know Scornfire has thought something similar, but that's only 2 votes and we need at least 3 for a deadline ban. I would prefer to vote DropIt but not much is going on today again, so I will put my vote on mrkajz for now so we at least meet the minimum.

my vote on mrkajz is not set in stone. I really only have the voting history on him, and the more I think about it the less it convinces me.