2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I think Bennett gets offer sheeted by the Oilers in the off season

The player has to also sign the offer sheet for this to happen.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by keenan87

True, but he wouldn't have much value in a trade for Stone. He definitely won't be the centerpiece at least.

He's a piece that makes more sense than a guy like Frolik
1st+Sam+Dube gets my attention if I'm Ottawa
Frolik doesn't. I'd rather have the cap space.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I don't necessarily think his contract is a major issue. I think it's the fact that he is under-performing that makes it suck and may become an anchor. Otherwise, the Flames are not in a lot of trouble because of that contract imo.

Yeah, Im not suggesting that it cripples the Flames cap structure, it just makes it so that the Flames need to behave differently when it comes to off season acquisitions. Correspondingly, fans need to check their expectations when it comes to things like the deadline, and the UFA market. The Flames have been very active in these regards in the past, but I think that they are moving into a new phase of management. I believe that the Flames have already gone very close to going 'all in" as some say. I just don't know how much more they should wager on this season alone. I say, the Flames made their bet, now is the time to let it ride.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The player has to also sign the offer sheet for this to happen.

Why wouldn't he sign? 3rd line duties with the Flames or potentially playing with McDavid.. I don't see it happening but I wouldn't blame him or say there is no reason for him not to.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The player has to also sign the offer sheet for this to happen.

I'd take a top-10 pick and a 3rd for Bennett.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

He's a piece that makes more sense than a guy like Frolik
1st+Sam+Dube gets my attention if I'm Ottawa
Frolik doesn't. I'd rather have the cap space.

Sure, I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Frolik can then either ride out this season or be traded in the off-season. There has to be at least 1 team in the NHL that will give at least a 7th round pick for him.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I think Bennett gets offer sheeted by the Oilers in the off season

We could be so lucky.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

He's a piece that makes more sense than a guy like Frolik
1st+Sam+Dube gets my attention if I'm Ottawa
Frolik doesn't. I'd rather have the cap space.

The last thing the team needs or wants is cap space. The floor is more of a concern and Frolik has a floor friendly contract.

Also they don’t have their first pick and want to avoid the embarrassment of a draft lottery win by finishing as high as possible to at least cut down the odds, so someone needs to play against top lines.

Frolik is a good hockey player, who can eventually be re-moved for more picks next year when tanking actually makes sense for Ottawa. I am sure Ottawa would be interested in him AS A PIECE in a much larger deal.

Without Stone they are the worst team in the league hands down. He is their best player and it isn’t close.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

This cap crunch is a big part of the reason I was so unsure about Neals contract. While it is not the ugliest in the world, it sure makes things tight from this year moving forward.

If Neal’s contract isn’t literally the ugliest in the world then it is definitely close, so that hyperbole doesn’t really work.

From a stats standpoint (p/60 per dollar we are paying him), it might LITERALLY be the ugliest contract in the hockey world sadly.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by neo45

If Neal’s contract isn’t literally the ugliest in the world then it is definitely close, so that hyperbole doesn’t really work.

From a stats standpoint (p/60 per dollar we are paying him), it might LITERALLY be the ugliest contract in the hockey world sadly.

[Split98]

Plus, on Ottawa Frolik will have tons of his precious ice-time

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

That guy is 5-9-14 and -8

The reference guy is 5-8-13 and -11

Potato / potah-to

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by neo45

The last thing the team needs or wants is cap space. The floor is more of a concern and Frolik has a floor friendly contract.

Also they don’t have their first pick and want to avoid the embarrassment of a draft lottery win by finishing as high as possible to at least cut down the odds, so someone needs to play against top lines.

Frolik is a good hockey player, who can eventually be re-moved for more picks next year when tanking actually makes sense for Ottawa. I am sure Ottawa would be interested in him AS A PIECE in a much larger deal.

Without Stone they are the worst team in the league hands down. He is their best player and it isn’t close.

They are that right now and the very reason they dont need nor will take back 30 year old journey men that have a year left on their deal. He is the anti-return they are looking for.

On top of all that...why would Frolik not include Ottawa in his no trade list?

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by transplant99

They are that right now and the very reason they dont need nor will take back 30 year old journey men that have a year left on their deal. He is the anti-return they are looking for.

On top of all that...why would Frolik not include Ottawa in his no trade list?

Well, just from Frolik's perspective, it might be his best chance to get 17-19 minutes of icetime and perhaps get 25 goals next year to leverage himself another decent payday... Judging by his agent (who presumably takes his cue from his client), icetime/$ is more important than winning.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by transplant99

They are that right now and the very reason they dont need nor will take back 30 year old journey men that have a year left on their deal. He is the anti-return they are looking for.

On top of all that...why would Frolik not include Ottawa in his no trade list?

Oh he most like does have them on his list and I doubt he waives. I don’t even want to trade Frolik, I was responding to the comment that Ottawa won’t take NHL players with salary back for Stone and Duchene.


Which they definitely will. They wanted Boedker for those reasons and he is a worse player than Frolik on a higher contract

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I think Bennett gets offer sheeted by the Oilers in the off season

With what cap space?

The point of putting out the offer sheet is to price the player out of the team holding the rights.

Oilers would be the last team with the ability to do that. Also Sam wouldn't sign with loser-infested watersville.

[Jiri Hrdina]

If we are considering an option that is less to acquire - what's the deal with Ryan Dzingel
I don't know the player well but has 20 goals and is a pending UFA
He's not being talked about at all. Not sure why.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

If we are considering an option that is less to acquire - what's the deal with Ryan Dzingel
I don't know the player well but has 20 goals and is a pending UFA
He's not being talked about at all. Not sure why.

He has been talked about and the asking price is a 1st which is why he is not talked about more often.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

With what cap space?

The point of putting out the offer sheet is to price the player out of the team holding the rights.

Oilers would be the last team with the ability to do that. Also Sam wouldn't sign with loser-infested watersville.

If you were the Canucks and someone offered you a 1st (non-lotterty protected) and 3rd for Jake Virtanen, would you not take that and run screaming for the hills?

Bennett is a little better than Virtanen, but not by much. They've got many of the same deficiencies, and they do many of the same things well. They're both reasonably skilled, good skating, physical forwards with good shots. Neither is a good passer. In the last 18 months, Bennett has 5 more points.

If the Oilers want to give that guy Spooner money, that's their call. Bennett is a $3M player at best right now, and if you added him to Edmonton, do they have even two more wins?

[Vinny01]

Back to the whole Bennett offer sheet thing I do see some potential that could happen this summer. We all know Bennett is a former 4th overall pick that is just 22 years old. He had his development stall with a significant injury in his draft +1 year. He made the Flames at the end of the year and had a decent playoff. That was followed up with 18 goals and 36pts as a 19 year old rookie which was 4 fewer goals but 2 more points than Monahan who was also a 19 year old rookie the previous year.

We then see the Gulutzan factor hit the Flames where 2 years of several of our top players was wasted with Bennett and Brodie taking the biggest hits. Bennett’s offensive game has not improved under Peters but he has transformed as a player this year. He has carved out a reputation as a tough individual and fierce competitor. I believe these attributes will be highlighted and enhanced during a long playoff run.

Heavy dollars are always thrown around on July 1 so I could easily see a team take a big swing at a 23 year old former 4th overall pick with the highest cap hit to either give the Flames a 2nd or a top team like Nashville dip a little deeper to the 1st and 3rd comp.

It would not shock me to see Bennett have a Lindholm like breakout next year (Basically double his career highs or recent years). It also wouldn’t shock me to see him sign an offer sheet or welcome a change of scenery as I am sure he still envisions himself as a potential star forward in the league.

If guys sign offer sheets this summer I doubt it is the Tkachuk, Marner, Boeser, Rantanen types but more a player like Bennett, Virtanen type player who wasn’t what they were drafted to be yet but young enough and showling flashes of the upside that made them a high pick to begin with.