02-04-2019, 05:00 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Vail
So, RW Finnish Zuccarello is 5'8" and 184 with 28 points in 37 games.
Canadian LW Kunitz is 6' 188 with 3 points in 30 games.
What does "guys like this" mean? Anyone who plays the wing in the NHL?
...beaten by 3 minutes...
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Salary? Is $3.5-4.5M close enough??
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02-04-2019, 05:01 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by RyZ
Lazy reporting? He got asked a question on live radio and gave an off the cuff answer. How does that qualify as lazy reporting?
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Because Kunitz and Zuccarello aren't even in the same universe as 'hockey players'.
One is a really good player who has been leading his team in scoring for the past few years, is small but can play a gritty game and win puck battles.
The other has been on a massive decline for the past 2 years, has only 3 points in 30 games played this year and is now 39 years old and done like dinner.
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02-04-2019, 05:05 PM
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#23
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Vail
So, RW Finnish Zuccarello is 5'8" and 184 with 28 points in 37 games.
Canadian LW Kunitz is 6' 188 with 3 points in 30 games.
What does "guys like this" mean? Anyone who plays the wing in the NHL?
...beaten by 3 minutes...
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Norwegian!!!
Uffda to you kind sir. 
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02-04-2019, 05:07 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
How are Kunitz and Zuccarello "guys like that"?
Zuccarello has lead his team in scoring most recent years, is a strong two-way player and goes in the dirty areas but is small. Is 31 and looks like he has a lot left to give, outside of some injuries this year.
Kunitz has been a passenger for years, has 3 points this year and is 39 and done.
Lazy reporting, "guys like that, you know professional hockey players"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl
Because Kunitz and Zuccarello aren't even in the same universe as 'hockey players'.
One is a really good player who has been leading his team in scoring for the past few years, is small but can play a gritty game and win puck battles.
The other has been on a massive decline for the past 2 years, has only 3 points in 30 games played this year and is now 39 years old and done like dinner.
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Could it be that the Flames are looking for a top/middle 6 guy like Zuccarello AND a depth veteran winger like Kunitz?
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Last edited by Yamer; 02-04-2019 at 05:09 PM.
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02-04-2019, 05:07 PM
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#25
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It isn't like Flames are willing to trade the same asset for each of them. I think they may think Kuntiz may be a better option as a 13th or 14th forward then some future black aces.
Or they kicked the tires and watched some games and filed it in the "last resort/feeling charitable" aka as the Freddie Modin or Nik Backstrom
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02-04-2019, 05:09 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
Could it be that the Flames are looking for a top/middle 6 guy like Zuccarello AND a depth veteran winger like Kunitz?
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You mean a depth veteran winger who can't play at an NHL level anymore because his game has deteriorated beyond salvageable levels and is as done as done can be?
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02-04-2019, 05:10 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl
You mean a depth veteran winger who can't play at an NHL level anymore because his game has deteriorated beyond salvageable levels and is as done as done can be?
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Sure, but that's a different gripe, isn't it?
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02-04-2019, 05:11 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
It isn't like Flames are willing to trade the same asset for each of them. I think they may think Kuntiz may be a better option as a 13th or 14th forward then some future black aces.
Or they kicked the tires and watched some games and filed it in the "last resort/feeling charitable" aka as the Freddie Modin or Nik Backstrom
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If they really are thinking that then that's a pretty stupid thing to be thinking.
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02-04-2019, 05:18 PM
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#29
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Calgary
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Zuc would be good for Neal with his play making ability to bad they play the same position. Still would be a good add though if he comes cheaper than someone like Dzingel.
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02-04-2019, 05:20 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl
If they really are thinking that then that's a pretty stupid thing to be thinking.
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If he can be had for a bag of pucks, why not. His playoff experience may be worth something.
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02-04-2019, 05:22 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
If he can be had for a bag of pucks, why not. His playoff experience may be worth something.
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Because Kunitz can't play at any sort of NHL level anymore. The game has completely passed him by now. He's truly done.
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02-04-2019, 05:26 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Having watched more than a few Rangers games (because they're my GFs favorite team), I really wouldn't mind Zuccarello. Really solid player, good effort level. Plenty of playoff experience too.
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02-04-2019, 05:29 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
Sure, but that's a different gripe, isn't it?
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Yes, but there is no good reason at all for Kunitz to still be in the NHL. Good in the locker room doesn't qualify as a viable reason because he has no NHL game left in him.
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02-04-2019, 05:31 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
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Zuccs would be sweet. Always liked him. He has decent playoff stats, and really good regular season numbers. Another undersized NHL player, but he's fought past that and carved out a pretty good career. I think he'd be a good fit.
Kunitz would suck balls. I'd be upset if we had to sit out any of our bottom 6, who have played so well recently, for him.
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02-04-2019, 05:37 PM
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#35
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Probably already covered but one of the insiders (LeBrun?) mentioned a few weeks back that last season around the deadline the Flames were looking at Zuccarello. Clearly a prolonged interest.
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02-04-2019, 05:39 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I could MAYBE see pushing out Mangiapane with Kunitz, but wouldn't Zuccarello do that too? Bizarre, don't want him at all.
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02-04-2019, 05:41 PM
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Zuccarello is the 1RW for the Rangers. I suspect he would bump Frolik to the 4L who in turn would knock Mangiapane out of the lineup.
But that would go for any top 6 the Flames pick up. Simmonds, Ferland, etc.
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02-04-2019, 05:42 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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I'm on board the Zuccarello train. And would love it to be more than just a rental.
Would I do the first for him 1:1?
I might. Particularly if I have a sense I can re-sign him.
I don't want to touch the roster. I want to add to it.
Also the Rangers have a late 2nd (lightning) I think.
So how about
Flames 1st+Eat Bread for Zuccarrello and that 2nd.
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02-04-2019, 05:42 PM
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#39
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#1 Goaltender
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the Norwegian Hobbit would be a great fit on this team. Relentless, skilled, and apparently hilarious.
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Zuccarello
Bennett - Jankowski - Neal
Frolik - Ryan - Hathaway
Swap Frolik/Zuc/Neal/Bennett depending on matchup
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02-04-2019, 05:44 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Zuccarello is the 1RW for the Rangers. I suspect he would bump Frolik to the 4L who in turn would knock Mangiapane out of the lineup.
But that would go for any top 6 the Flames pick up. Simmonds, Ferland, etc.
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