2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I think the Devils might get better offers than that. I'd prefer not to trade a guy like Lazar, anyway -- he's valuable depth for the playoffs, along with guys like Mangiapane and Foo (guys who we know can play NHL minutes).

I'd do something like Ruzicka and a 3rd for Boyle. Ruzicka appears to have plateaued somewhat in the OHL.

I think that at the least the devils would want a player who can make their roster today, Even though they are a lock to miss the playoffs, they'll need warm bodies on the bench, something they've struggled with this season.

[goflamesgo18]

Originally Posted by Royle9

That and more, probably Valimaki and or another early pick. (2nd/3rd)

Would you be willing to get rid of all that for just this season of Stone? There's no way we can resign him to a 8+Million long term contract so you're giving up all that for a pure rental.

I wouldn't do it myself.

I would give up what I offered. I would not include Valimaki, Kylington, or Andersson though.

[TheScorpion]

Beetlejuice x3...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1092457307903016960

https://twitter.com/user/status/1092476603060367361

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Royle9

That and more, probably Valimaki and or another early pick. (2nd/3rd)

Would you be willing to get rid of all that for just this season of Stone? There's no way we can resign him to a 8+Million long term contract so you're giving up all that for a pure rental.

I wouldn't do it myself.

There is a way, you just don't choose to either acknowledge or like it. Frolik+1st+Dube for Stone at 8.0 mil means that the Flames need to come up with 3.3 million.

The Flames should trade TJ Brodie in the off-season for 1st+A-level Prospect to re-coupe some of the traded picks. This trade means that the Flames have made more than even on the trade for Mark Stone. (8.0 - 4.65 - 4.3 = ~1.0 mil). The Flames don't need that extra 1.0 mil for replacement because they should have: Giordano, Hanifin, Hamonic, Andersson, Stone, Kylington

An increase in salary cap of 3.5 million dollars+Tkachuk's current salary+old buyouts coming off the books + savings from Stone and Brodie transaction = 6.2 million. I think he will be paid 7.5 million and that means the Flames need to come up with 1.3 million.

Then,

1.3 million + 500k for Bennet's increase + 2.2 mil Rittich increase + 1.0 million back-up = 5.8 million

Smith Salary (4.25 mil) coming off the books means that the Flames need to come up with 1.5 million dollars. The Flames currently have 1.3 million in cap space, which means that they only need to come up with $0.2 million dollars.

This can be accomplished by replacing Czarnik with Foo/Mangiapane/Phillips/Quine (500k)..

Keep in mind, I didn't even trade Michael Stone (3.5 mil) in all of this because Mark would probably sign to play with him. I have also kept James Neal on the roster because it is unlikely he will get traded. That is an additional ~9.0 million dollars that can be potentially cleared up. Additional cap space can also come from signing Tkachuk to a bridge deal.

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AHL Player-Ryan-AHL Player

Giordano-Kylington
Hanifin-Hamonic
Valimaki-Andersson

Rittich
Backup

[Roof-Daddy]

I don't think St. Louis will be sellers.

They have been under performing all season compared to their roster, and are heating up with a legit shot at playoffs now.

[Toonage]

Did we trade for Brassard yet?

[David Struch]

Stone could be the first big name gone...Where?

And oddly enough, two teams, Edmonton and Philly, are NOT playoff teams, but they do see the chance of extending Stone as worth the risk...Meanwhile, Calgary and San Jose are also very interested...

According to my source: "You are looking at a first, and two players Ottawa feels can help them NOW. Not a lot of teams have that kind of depth to deal from. The Sens will take back some money for sure...This trade almost has to happen first because at least 5-7 other teams are waiting on Stone's destination to decide how hard they will get involved in the deadline and that is very much iffy right now."

https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklu...t-1230/1/97538

[Toonage]

The Sens aren't taking back any money.

Oh Eklund...

[Husky]

Why do people want ferland back? He is injury prone and inconsistent. They said during the game yesterday that he has something like 2 goals in his last 20 games. No thanks

[868904]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I dont know why I thought he did so I apologize, my point still stands however. He's done very little to deter much.

Prout did play in the second BoA game and Kassian and Lucic did nothing when he was around so you could say that he was a bit of deterrent in that sense.

He also played the second Vancouver game and Gudbranson and Roussel didn't knock any Flames silly so again.

[transplant99]

Eklund is a liar.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by David Struch

https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklu...t-1230/1/97538

Two players that can help them now?? I guess the Oilers are out. Unless they trade McDavid and Draisatl

[TheIronMaiden]

Just for context the deadline is 21 days away, and the Flames will play 9 games between now and then.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Two players that can help them now?? I guess the Oilers are out. Unless they trade McDavid and Draisatl

Later Fro

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

For the sake of argument I disagree. Maroon, although younger is having an awful season with only 4 goals and 10 assists to his name. Likewise his footspeed is just as bad as Boyles, but he doesn't bring the 111 games of playoff experience.


Ferland, I would love to see him, but I think the cost of acquisition would price the Flames out, if Ferland had a good contract in place he would be worth the 1st, but he doesn't and a 1st for a rental is ridiculous.

Simmonds, at the right price would be better.

I think the appeal of a player like Boyle is that he could be acquired at a fair price, and has play off experience, something the Flames team has very little of.

I think Maroon brings much more physicality than Boyle does.

[transplant99]

why are so many people wanting to mortgage a big chunk of the future and the current team chemistry for Stone?

He is a goal scorer/point getter....not exactly a need for this team. I mean they are 2nd in the entire league in that respect.

Why would it not be a better to firm up areas of weakness using much lesser assets to do so?

[GranteedEV]

I wonder if VGK are going to keep Subban next offseason or are willing to move his contract. He's actually got decent numbers - take out the game Calgary humiliated their whole team and he'd have a .923 / 2.01 GAA over seven games - but as a team they sure are riding Fleury pretty hard.

25 years old, I'd be interested.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by transplant99

why are so many people wanting to mortgage a big chunk of the future and the current team chemistry for Stone?

He is a goal scorer/point getter....not exactly a need for this team. I mean they are 2nd in the entire league in that respect.

Why would it not be a better to firm up areas of weakness using much lesser assets to do so?

Stone is also a very good defensive forward, and would add significantly to the 2nd line.

And it's debatable if it would be mortgaging anything from the future contending period of the Flames.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by transplant99

why are so many people wanting to mortgage a big chunk of the future and the current team chemistry for Stone?

He is a goal scorer/point getter....not exactly a need for this team. I mean they are 2nd in the entire league in that respect.

Why would it not be a better to firm up areas of weakness using much lesser assets to do so?

Because guys like Stone are not always available. You are forgetting that he is also tremendous defensively.

Goal scorer, point getter, defensive specialist, 26 years old, big... He is definitely worth giving up the future for imo and someone who can be a tremendous addition for this team not just for this year but moving forward.

Also, you can make another trade in the off-season and re-coup some of the picks with the extra strength the Flames have on defense.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by transplant99

why are so many people wanting to mortgage a big chunk of the future and the current team chemistry for Stone?

He is a goal scorer/point getter....not exactly a need for this team. I mean they are 2nd in the entire league in that respect.

Why would it not be a better to firm up areas of weakness using much lesser assets to do so?

He's a great 2 way player, would be huge for the already solid shutdown 2nd line.

Anything targetted at getting Stone would obviously have to come with a huge push to re-sign him