2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[sureLoss]

Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli
Sounds like #Oilers had a positive conversation with Cam Talbot, letting him know they are leaving door open to signing him to an extension. But EDM has imminent cap issues (activating Sekera) and Talbot would seem to be one vehicle to clear space via trade. Stay tuned.

[goflamesgo18]

Originally Posted by fleury

I've brought it up already, but what about Justin Williams? Not slow, big time playoff performer, current Hurricane. I'm sure he'll be dealt to a contender, and I see a position for him on the bottom two lines. Chances?

I wouldnt mind that. Could be had cheap too.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by goflamesgo18

I wouldnt mind that. Could be had cheap too.

Is he even available for the type of cost he would get? He seems to love it in Carolina and they seem to love him. Isn't he their captain, too?

[goflamesgo18]

Originally Posted by Ped

Is he even available for the type of cost he would get? He seems to love it in Carolina and they seem to love him. Isn't he their captain, too?

He has a 15 team no trade list. UFA after this season. If carolina is far off playoff spot by trade deadline, Id think hed love another opportunity at a cup

[Krynn]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

its dreger, but that's interesting... if a team offers Matthews at 10M or under the penalty is 2x1st, 2nd and a 3rd...

not as daunting a payout

I also seen an interview with wings GM saying he has no problem making an Offer sheet and is thinking about doing it if it makes sense for the wings

[Gaskal]

If I am Treliving I'm in the thick of it with the big boys (Panarin, Stone, Duchene, Simmonds) until the eleventh hour driving up prices, then opt to back out and settle for a bargain instead while allowing the big game hunters to overpay.

Guessing LeBrun caught wind of Treliving being very active and maintaining a dialogue with those headline seller teams, which might explain his confidence that Brad will be out to make a splash this February.

[TheScorpion]

The more I think about it, the more I want a guy like Zuccarello or Johansson, guys who aren't going to come in with enormous expectations and who have more grinder-type aspects to their games.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

The more I think about it, the more I want a guy like Zuccarello or Johansson, guys who aren't going to come in with enormous expectations and who have more grinder-type aspects to their games.

There seems to be a lot of belief that Zuccarello is a grinder with a physical edge. I really dont know what he is, but he seems on the small side for that type of game. Unless he has the old brick ####house build I guess

[browna]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli
Sounds like #Oilers had a positive conversation with Cam Talbot, letting him know they are leaving door open to signing him to an extension. But EDM has imminent cap issues (activating Sekera) and Talbot would seem to be one vehicle to clear space via trade. Stay tuned.

Can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube Nicholson.

They have been crapping on Talbot up there for months there,and two weeks ago signed Koskinen (oddly) when they did, asssumedly to blatantly signal to everyone out there that Talbot was no longer in the plans and thus availabe in a trade.

Best part is they told Talbot a few days before, and goes and lays an egg against Carolina with zero motivation. But now they are having positive conversations? PR spin from the Oilers, all of it, to a guy like Servelli who’s a couple steps up above Elkund in the credibility scale and will take any morsel he gets and throw it out there.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by goflamesgo18

To CGY;
Panarin


To CBJ;
1st
Dube
Stone

Johnny - Mony - Lindy
Tkachuk - Backlund - Panarin
Bennett - Janko - Neal
Frolik - Ryan - Hathaway

PP1
Johnny - Mony - Panarin
Giordano - Lindholm

PP2
Tkachuk - Janko - Bennett
Brodie - Andersson

Thoughts?

To be honest that would make me dread the upcoming playoffs if the Flames made that kind of deal. Anything less than a Stanley Cup appearance would make that a horrible trade. I'm a firm believer that Dube is going to be a good middle 6 player in the NHL.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

The more I think about it, the more I want a guy like Zuccarello or Johansson, guys who aren't going to come in with enormous expectations and who have more grinder-type aspects to their games.

I have had a feeling the past couple days that Zuccarello is going to be the forward the Flames acquire. They have had rumored interest in the past and he will not cost a ton especially in a buyers market.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I would be surprised if Treliving deals Brodie. Also, I think that people forget how good Brodie was WITHOUT Giordano for a very long stretch playing with Engelland, and playing on his off-side. He played so well, that had it not been for the Ferland freight train, Brodie would most likely have been singled out as the best player for the Flames in those two rounds.


Brodie is fine on the left side. What he wasn't fine with was playing Gulutzan's system. How do I know? Listen to his interview during garbage bag day last season. He himself stated that he prefers to handle the puck more and attack more, rather than sitting back. That is where the strength of his game is, and that is how he actually defends exceptionally well to boot. Right now, Brodie is the 'defensive presence' on that pairing with Giordano, as Giordano is jumping up into the play a heck of a lot more. He is doing well defending, and he is consistently making really good choices out there in all three zones. That's not Giordano whispering in his ear. The two compliment each other nicely, but it is selling Brodie incredibly short that it is only because of Giordano, or only because of playing on his preferred side, as the rationale of why he is good again this year. It has a whole lot more to do with the system than people are giving him credit for.


ALL the defencemen look better this year. Giordano looks better. Hamonic looks better. Brodie looks better. Andersson looks better. Stone hasn't got any meaningful games in, so we can't judge him. I think that Peters' system change has a heck of a lot more to do with the Flames' success than people are giving Peters credit for, actually. Some people are tired of reading deprecating remarks about Gulutzan, but yes, he was THAT bad.


I used this metaphor a lot last season (probably the season before as well). The Flames have racehorses for defencemen, and Gulutzan tried to use them more like plough horses. It would have been great if the team had 6 Regehr-types that don't move the puck that well, but essentially all their defencemen move the puck nicely, including Hamonic (who is probably the weakest link on the team in that capacity out of the starting 6/7, if you include Kylington and Valimaki).



I had a bet with my buddy that Giordano would get 60+ points this season, with Brodie getting around 45 or so, and they would both be high plus players. I was a bit off with Brodie's numbers, but I was right in the overall sentiment - this team's biggest strength still lies in the fact that they can transition incredibly quickly. Teams know this and always have to be more careful when playing Calgary, and this does allow for less cheating by teams on offence. You have to respect Calgary's ability to transition lightning-quick. That's how the Flames score so many empty-netters this year as compared to last year, for instance. Teams HAVE to cheat at that point, and Calgary is so good at just breaking out quickly and accurately. Brodie is a huge piece of that - he is good on the PP (his passing/ability to create offence is really good, even if he doesn't possess a blistering shot from the point). He is good on the PK. He is good at 5v5. He is unquestionably Calgary's 2nd best defencemen in OT. That's versatility. Granteed is absolutely right in that category.


Flames took a gamble on trading Hamilton last season. Rumoured to having been wanting to move on might have been the biggest factor, but teams started calling Calgary and they got an offer they felt they couldn't refuse. A 1st for Brodie is not an offer they can't refuse. I really believe that because Treliving was here and saw firsthand for himself how good Giordano and Brodie played with one another, it helped offset the risk of moving a top-pairing defencemen.


Andersson is a great young guy - much better than I thought he would be. However, his foot speed is something that top lines will try to exploit at times. I don't think he is ready to move up. Hamonic doesn't move the puck well enough in my opinion to just seamlessly replace Brodie. The only area where Hamonic is better than Brodie is right in front of the net in moving out bodies - otherwise, Brodie is just as good if not better defensively. You can't move out Brodie unless you are sure you have a replacement that can come in and do his job without too much of a hiccup. Flames don't have that.


Giordano is also getting older. Hanifin has been MUCH better than advertised defensively, but he is not rock-solid like Giordano is. However, Flames have 3 shots at the can on that left side - Hanifin, Valimaki and Kylington - all really good, smart, great skating, 2-way defencemen. Even then I don't think Giordano gets traded given his role.



I think it is more likely Hamonic gets dealt, or Kylington. That 2nd pairing has been rock-steady though, and I would hate to break it up. I would hate to get rid of any of Valimaki, Kylington or Andersson. I do think in the off-season that it will happen, but I would be shocked if it was Brodie. There is nobody on that right side that is capable of replacing Brodie.

Can't thank this post enough...my sentiments in spades.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I have had a feeling the past couple days that Zuccarello is going to be the forward the Flames acquire. They have had rumored interest in the past and he will not cost a ton especially in a buyers market.

If Mats Zuccarello is acquired by the Flames they will become Norway’s team.

I approve of this possibility.


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[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I have had a feeling the past couple days that Zuccarello is going to be the forward the Flames acquire. They have had rumored interest in the past and he will not cost a ton especially in a buyers market.

I hope so. I think he might be a fantastic option, especially if he comes at a relatively cheap price as a pure rental. I don't know for sure because I haven't seen him play a whole lot, but his numbers seem very positive.

-Relative Corsi For % = 2.5%
-Relative Expected Goals For % = 1.95%
-Context:
----Quality of Competition = 88th percentile
----Quality of Teammates = 66th percentile
-24 points in 35 games

[868904]

Originally Posted by browna

Can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube Nicholson.

They have been crapping on Talbot up there for months there,and two weeks ago signed Koskinen (oddly) when they did, asssumedly to blatantly signal to everyone out there that Talbot was no longer in the plans and thus availabe in a trade.

Best part is they told Talbot a few days before, and goes and lays an egg against Carolina with zero motivation. But now they are having positive conversations? PR spin from the Oilers, all of it, to a guy like Servelli who’s a couple steps up above Elkund in the credibility scale and will take any morsel he gets and throw it out there.

Pretty obvious ploy by the Oilers to make it look like they don't have to trade Talbot. It'll be great to see the league call their bluff and have them stuck with Talbot for the rest of the season, then have Talbot leave in the Summer while giving them the finger, leaving the Oilers with nothing to show for the asset.

Doesn't matter what the Oilers say, Talbot will not sign back with them. That's the key.

[ComixZone]

I really want the Flames to figure out a way to land a solid young(ish) top-end player and then also figure out a way to extend them without issue.

We’ve watched other top end teams do it for years. We always sat here reflecting on how the rich keep getting richer.

I want to feel what that’s like.

Somehow...hit another home run, Tree. That’d be rad.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I really want the Flames to figure out a way to land a solid young(ish) top-end player and then also figure out a way to extend them without issue.

We’ve watched other top end teams do it for years. We always sat here reflecting on how the rich keep getting richer.

I want to feel what that’s like.

Somehow...hit another home run, Tree. That’d be rad.

I think this could be great too. In this direction, I like Alex Wennberg and Andre Burakovsky as potential targets.

[JurassicTunga12]

I have faith in the wizard. He is going make something good happen.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I really want the Flames to figure out a way to land a solid young(ish) top-end player and then also figure out a way to extend them without issue.

We’ve watched other top end teams do it for years. We always sat here reflecting on how the rich keep getting richer.

I want to feel what that’s like.

Somehow...hit another home run, Tree. That’d be rad.

Ever since timbit started talking about Couturier the other day, I can't stop thinking about how awesome adding him would be. Right age range, and already signed to an amazing value contract. No idea why Philly would trade him, but they did come out and say they would move anyone besides Giroux. So hopefully Tre takes them up on that!

[Ped]

Originally Posted by goflamesgo18

He has a 15 team no trade list. UFA after this season. If carolina is far off playoff spot by trade deadline, Id think hed love another opportunity at a cup

I disagree. The guy has 3 cups and probably wouldn't mind some stability at this point in his life. Carolina wasn't a contender when he signed there. I just doubt they want to trade him or he wants to move.