[News] Oilers fire Chiarelli. Nicholson: "There is something in the water here in Edmonton."

[DiracSpike]

Originally Posted by Regorium

There's an absolute comparison. 1.1M visitors (using the old data) for a 240M investment. Means that if you are saying a new arena gets 2M visitors, that means that the city should spend a maximum of approximately 450M dollars to get a similar return for # of visitors on investment.

The Flames were asking for a lot more than that. And I'm using visitor data to the old library, and taking your numbers at face value.

I'm not comparing public worth numbers or anything like that, just strict attendance numbers to counter the guys claim that the library would outdraw Rogers which it won't. That's all I wanted to argue since he smugly tossed it out like absolute fact when it's not true.

[dino7c]

if there were ever a use for the saying "apples and oranges" this is it

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Regorium

There's an absolute comparison. 1.1M visitors (using the old data) for a 240M investment. Means that if you are saying a new arena gets 2M visitors, that means that the city should spend a maximum of approximately 450M dollars to get a similar return for # of visitors on investment.

The Flames were asking for a lot more than that. And I'm using visitor data to the old library, and taking your numbers at face value.

How much should the city give Cadillac Fairview to expand Chinook Mall? 15,046,026 yearly visitors.

[rotten42]

Originally Posted by starseed

Apparently it is a much bigger draw.



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...boom-1.4895488

I'm sure there is a drop off after the new smell goes away. 4 days is a small sample size.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Yes but how many of those visits were just homeless people coming in to use the washroom facilities or to warm up out of the cold?

Interesting. Do the needs of homeless people that a project like CPL potentially helps to mitigate even a small bit detract from the usefulness of the data? If anything, I think it would illustrate the higher accessibility and community function of a public library as compared to an "events centre."

I haven't lived in Calgary for a long time, but my own town has a serious issue with homelessness. If my tax dollars produced some unintended relief to the most visibly marginalized group of people my city, then I am all for it.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by FlamesFanTrev

Okay.. enough library and arena talk. Unless you have a mineral report on the city of Edmonton's water supply, are reveling in the colossal mess of the Oilers, or pontificating on who will be the next GM fired by the Oilers, Take it to another thread, hippies.

Edmonton's water has a high percentage of nogoodium in it.

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Interesting. Do the needs of homeless people that a project like CPL potentially helps to mitigate even a small bit detract from the usefulness of the data? If anything, I think it would illustrate the higher accessibility and community function of a public library as compared to an "events centre."

I haven't lived in Calgary for a long time, but my own town has a serious issue with homelessness. If my tax dollars produced some unintended relief to the most visibly marginalized group of people my city, then I am all for it.

All I was saying is that a study that counts the multiple entry visits by homeless people to the library doesn't give real numbers of people who IMO are using the library for the services it provides (Books, learning, etc.) but that is an entirely different debate.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

All I was saying is that a study that counts the multiple entry visits by homeless people to the library doesn't give real numbers of people who IMO are using the library for the services it provides (Books, learning, etc.) but that is an entirely different debate.

The transient numbers really don't make a material difference.

[GioforPM]

Library versus arena is a pretty bad comparison.

[Enoch Root]

Please take it to the arena thread

[calgaryred]

This thread sure derailed

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[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Library versus arena is a pretty bad comparison.

Not as much as you would think.



See: Saddledome.

[GioforPM]

My bad - I literally lost track and thought it was that thread. For obvious reasons.

[flamesforcup]

Originally Posted by tfi racing

Here is an excellent testimony to the value of a library, and why some people should perhaps spend a little more time there than here...

LOL. Dont worry I write better in real life than on a forum.

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by calgaryred

This thread sure derailed

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derailed? Why would you bring trains into this thread that is clearly about municipal water quality?

[Macindoc]

This thread is no good.

Oh wait, it's about Edmonton, of course it's no good...

[FusionX]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Gif

Yikes, as much as I know what you were going for, that gif makes me cringe. Hopefully it was a test run or something...

[FusionX]

Edit: Double post

[GioforPM]

Anyway, Rogers Place sucks.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Anyway, Rogers Place sucks.

"No Good" is the preferred terminology.