Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-17-2019, 02:45 PM   #7321
AC
Resident Videologist
 
AC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames1217 View Post
My buddy just told me that deal he talked about fell through, apparently we were after Rask..

Kinda surprises me.
If true, I wonder if we'll be in on Brassard then.

Similar 3C type of player with offensive upside but in need of a change of scenery.
AC is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to AC For This Useful Post:
Old 01-17-2019, 02:52 PM   #7322
Winsor_Pilates
Franchise Player
 
Winsor_Pilates's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krynn View Post
If you could add one player at the deadlin who would it be no matter if the salary cap
Crosby
Winsor_Pilates is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Winsor_Pilates For This Useful Post:
Old 01-17-2019, 02:55 PM   #7323
SuperMatt18
Franchise Player
 
SuperMatt18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AC View Post
If true, I wonder if we'll be in on Brassard then.

Similar 3C type of player with offensive upside but in need of a change of scenery.
Hmm wonder what Carolina would have wanted in return from us. Frolik is kind of an older version of Niederreiter.

Us looking at Rask makes it sound like we want a guy with some term left though that fits this age group, and not a guy that would just be a rental like Brassard.

Other Rask comparables that play some C that have some term left and may need a scenery change:

- Coyle
- Pageau
- Bjugstad
- Schenn (Bit more of a stretch)

Those guys all fit in that C/W, 25-26 years old, around $4M salary range that Rask would have been in.

Last edited by SuperMatt18; 01-17-2019 at 02:57 PM.
SuperMatt18 is offline  
Old 01-17-2019, 02:55 PM   #7324
Flash Walken
Lifetime Suspension
 
Flash Walken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames1217 View Post
My buddy just told me that deal he talked about fell through, apparently we were after Rask..

Kinda surprises me.
Interesting follow up
Flash Walken is offline  
Old 01-17-2019, 03:02 PM   #7325
SuperMatt18
Franchise Player
 
SuperMatt18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken View Post
Interesting follow up
Now this is a going deep down the speculation rabbit hole and is based on absolutely nothing but

Carolina is looking desperately for top 6 forwards.

Trade ended up being:

Niederreiter: 3.5 years at $5.25M

for

Rask: 3.5 years at $4M

Could Carolina have actually had interest in Neal at 4.5 years at $5.75...could also be why he was held out of the game/practice for "Illness".
SuperMatt18 is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to SuperMatt18 For This Useful Post:
Old 01-17-2019, 03:07 PM   #7326
Bonded
Franchise Player
 
Bonded's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Exp:
Default

Coyle would be a sweet pick up.
Bonded is offline  
Old 01-17-2019, 03:07 PM   #7327
Roof-Daddy
Franchise Player
 
Roof-Daddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Exp:
Default

Rask is slow. Lets not go after slow players please.
Roof-Daddy is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Roof-Daddy For This Useful Post:
Old 01-17-2019, 03:28 PM   #7328
868904
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18 View Post
Now this is a going deep down the speculation rabbit hole and is based on absolutely nothing but

Carolina is looking desperately for top 6 forwards.

Trade ended up being:

Niederreiter: 3.5 years at $5.25M

for

Rask: 3.5 years at $4M

Could Carolina have actually had interest in Neal at 4.5 years at $5.75...could also be why he was held out of the game/practice for "Illness".
Seems like the only thing that would make sense seeing as how the Flames wouldn't have been able to afford (cap wise for future seasons) Rask's $4 million AAV for the next 4 years without moving a guy like Neal.
__________________
Calgary Flames, PLEASE GO TO THE NET! AND SHOOT THE PUCK! GENERATING OFFENSE IS NOT DIFFICULT! SKATE HARD, SHOOT HARD, CRASH THE NET HARD!
868904 is offline  
Old 01-17-2019, 03:33 PM   #7329
Flames1217
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 868904 View Post
Seems like the only thing that would make sense seeing as how the Flames wouldn't have been able to afford (cap wise for future seasons) Rask's $4 million AAV for the next 4 years without moving a guy like Neal.
Maybe some retention was involved. I could see it being Frolik for Rask but thier GM got a better offer. I feel like Tre comments the other day on rentals and trying not to mess up the future here takes us out of big time one and done rentals.

Froliks agent did complain, he has connections with the Hurricanes. Interesting to say the least. Of course he wont tell who he thinks was going to the Canes if it fell through.
Flames1217 is offline  
Old 01-17-2019, 03:41 PM   #7330
1qqaaz
Franchise Player
 
1qqaaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
Exp:
Default

After Stone, I think Rask would be the next best dream pickup.

Top 5 goalie save percentage all time:

Hasek: 92.2%
Gibson: 92.2%
Rask: 92.2%
Dryden: 92.2%
Thomas: 92.0%

I think save percentage is one of the best "simple" stats in hockey. Rask is almost 32, but he's one of the most consistent goalies in the league.
1qqaaz is offline  
Old 01-17-2019, 03:44 PM   #7331
Hockeyguy15
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz View Post
After Stone, I think Rask would be the next best dream pickup.

Top 5 goalie save percentage all time:

Hasek: 92.2%
Gibson: 92.2%
Rask: 92.2%
Dryden: 92.2%
Thomas: 92.0%

I think save percentage is one of the best "simple" stats in hockey. Rask is almost 32, but he's one of the most consistent goalies in the league.
There are two Rasks?!?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryblood View Post
Looks like you'll need one long before I will. May I suggest deflection king?
Hockeyguy15 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Hockeyguy15 For This Useful Post:
Old 01-17-2019, 03:44 PM   #7332
Ozy_Flame

Posted the 6 millionth post!
 
Ozy_Flame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15 View Post
There are two Rasks?!?
There are two Sebastian Aho's, if you can believe that!
Ozy_Flame is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ozy_Flame For This Useful Post:
Old 01-17-2019, 03:51 PM   #7333
Muta
Franchise Player
 
Muta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
Exp:
Default

More impressively, there are six Giordano's
Muta is online now  
Old 01-17-2019, 04:03 PM   #7334
HighLifeMan
First Line Centre
 
HighLifeMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion View Post
I would be very hesitant to acquire Silfverberg. He's quite poor defensively and is a rather inefficient scorer. Apparently he has a good shot but rather seldom uses it. And he'd probably cost a ton.
Where are you getting that? He is widely regarded as one of the better defensive wingers in the game today. He has received Selke votes in each of the last three seasons. He is also a relatively strong penalty killer.

Silfverberg gets absolutely hammered in terms of zone starts (37 oSZ%)

He would be a fantastic fit next to Backlund and Tkachuck. He's also a big time playoff performer.
HighLifeMan is offline  
Old 01-17-2019, 05:11 PM   #7335
David Struch
First Line Centre
 
David Struch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Exp:
Default

TSN: Frank Seravalli’s top 45 trade bait board

Quote:
1. Matt Duchene – C – UFA
2. Wayne Simmonds – RW – UFA
3. Micheal Ferland – LW – UFA
4. Mats Zuccarello – RW – UFA
5. Edmonton Oilers 2019 first-round pick
6. Sergei Bobrovsky – G – UFA
7. Dougie Hamilton – RHD – two years left
8. Gustav Nyquist – RW – UFA
9. Jimmy Howard – G – UFA
10. Brayden Schenn – C – one-year left
11. Jakob Silfverberg – RW – UFA
12. Charlie Coyle – C – one-year left
13. Kevin Hayes – C – UFA
14. Jesse Puljujarvi – RW – RFA
15. Cam Talbot – G – UFA
16. Jake Muzzin – LHD – one-year left
17. Colton Parayko – RHD – three years left
18. Nick Bjugstad – C/RW – two years left
19. Alexander Edler – LHD – UFA
20. Brett Pesce – RHD – five years left
21. Ryan Dzingel – LW – UFA
22. Kasperi Kapanen – RW – RFA
23. Andreas Johnsson – LW – RFA
24. Chris Kreider – LW – one-year left
25. Jeff Carter – C – three years left
26. Nino Niederreiter – RW – three years left
27. Cody Ceci – RHD – RFA
28. Justin Faulk – RHD – one-year left
29. Alex Steen – LW – two-years left
30. Jay Bouwmeester – LHD – UFA
31. Alec Martinez – RHD – two years left
32. Pat Maroon – LW – UFA
33. Andre Burakovsky – LW – RFA
34. Marcus Johansson – LW – UFA
35. Michael Del Zotto – LHD – UFA
36. Luke Schenn – LHD – UFA
37. Bogdan Kiselevich – LHD – UFA
38. Niklas Kronwall – LHD – UFA
39. Carl Hagelin – LW – UFA
40. Vlad Namestnikov – LW – one-year left
41. Chris Tanev – RHD – one-year left
42. Sam Gagner – RW – one-year left
43. Jeff Skinner – LW – UFA
44. Artemi Panarin – LW – UFA
45. Mark Stone – RW – UFA
https://mynhltraderumors.com/nhl-rum...rd/2019/01/17/
David Struch is offline  
Old 01-17-2019, 05:14 PM   #7336
DeluxeMoustache
 
DeluxeMoustache's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Exp:
Default

^ and then there were 42
DeluxeMoustache is online now  
Old 01-17-2019, 05:21 PM   #7337
Pickle Juice
Crash and Bang Winger
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch View Post
TSN: Frank Seravalli’s top 45 trade bait board

https://mynhltraderumors.com/nhl-rum...rd/2019/01/17/
Is this in order of best to worst? Don’t get me wrong I love Ferkland but #3. Or is it most likely to be traded?
Pickle Juice is online now  
Old 01-17-2019, 05:23 PM   #7338
Reaper
Franchise Player
 
Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: I'm right behind you
Exp:
Default

I think we should ask Wayne Simmonds if he wants to be our Chris Simon.
__________________
Don't fear me. Trust me.
Reaper is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Reaper For This Useful Post:
Old 01-17-2019, 05:36 PM   #7339
ForeverFlameFan
Franchise Player
 
ForeverFlameFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pickle Juice View Post
Is this in order of best to worst? Don’t get me wrong I love Ferkland but #3. Or is it most likely to be traded?
Ferland would be a big add for any contending team. I think he is somewhat worthy of his spot, maybe not 3, but definitely top 10.
ForeverFlameFan is offline  
Old 01-17-2019, 05:49 PM   #7340
getbak
Franchise Player
 
getbak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pickle Juice View Post
Is this in order of best to worst? Don’t get me wrong I love Ferkland but #3. Or is it most likely to be traded?
Usually it's a combination of the two. Most-likely to get traded and most-likely to get the biggest return.
__________________
Turn up the good, turn down the suck!
getbak is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:32 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy