2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[agulati]

The flames main need is a winger/center who could slot in to the 3rd/4th line. Ideally someone who could also win faceoffs and/or play on the power play to displace Derek Ryan.

Ferland, Brassard, Silfverberg all potentially fit that mould.

Another need could be on defence, if Stone is going to be out any longer. I'm not sure a bottom pairing of Kylington-Prout gives much confidence if we have an injury in the D-core.

[Love]

Gaudreau- Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Silfverberg

:drool:

[Eric Vail]

The Flames defense (when healthy)

Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Valimaki - Anderson
Kylington-Stone
Prout

Why do the Flames need another defenseman?

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

Why do the Flames need another defenseman?

Because Stone sucks and coaches hate having to rely on rookie pairings.

[TheScorpion]

Do not want Silfverberg, he's worse than Frolik in almost every measure. I'd prefer a guy like Kreider.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Because Stone sucks and coaches hate having to rely on rookie pairings.

Peters seems pretty comfortable with it this season.

[agulati]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

The Flames defense (when healthy)

Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Valimaki - Anderson
Kylington-Stone
Prout

Why do the Flames need another defenseman?

Stone/Valimaki are injured. They will come back soon hopefully, but it always helps to have depth.

Valimaki, Anderson and Kylington are rookies. Hanifin is quite young as well. I wouldn't mind having some veteran depth step in when games get more physical/tense in the playoffs. A responsible defenseman for the 6th/7th role will be a helpful pickup.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Because Stone sucks and coaches hate having to rely on rookie pairings.

I think Peters is just fine with Valimaki and Andersson as the third pairing. And Stone is an excellent 7th D if he can get back.

The Flames don't need to spend more assets on D. I can't imaging Peters having to go to the team and tell them that they are going to be sending one Valimaki or Andersson to the press box after they have been steady for the #1 team in the West. Nope, I don't see the Flames changing anything on the back end unless it's for an injury or a 7/8 guy who they would rather have over Prout.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Love

Gaudreau- Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Silfverberg

:drool:

Not directed at you but i see a lot of this sentiment like this or at least i think i am


I don't get the want to move Frolik off that line.

Is it the tweets from Walsh?

Cause as soon as Frolik replaced Bennett on that line, this team changed offensively. Who knows if it continues, but it is a movie we have seen before.

Frolik is on a 46 pt pace for the season with no PP time, Silvferberg 38 playing over 2 min a game while on the PP.

Defensively, Frolik is head and shoulders better, and is a good PK guy.

He may not be a prototypical 2nd line F, but on this club he fills that spot perfectly.

If it aint broke, dont fix it.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

The Flames defense (when healthy)

Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Valimaki - Anderson
Kylington-Stone
Prout

Why do the Flames need another defenseman?

Valimaki will likely go the AHL once he returns from injury, not sure how useful he will be come playoff time. Running two rookies on the same pairing typically isn't a recipe for success (granted, Kylington and Andersson have done okay- still getting out chanced and out shot though).

Stone is good depth, but he has also been out for a long time. Might need a lot of work to get back up to game speed so unsure of how much you want to rely on him returning to the line up, if he does at all.

Ultimately another steady left shot D to help stabilize the third pairing with Andersson would be helpful and good insurance as long as it doesn't cost too much.

Apparently it's a buyers market so maybe something like Foo+4th for Gunnarson?

[Ozy_Flame]

Was looking up Silvferberg and saw Ryan Kesler has 6 points in 43 games, at a $6.9 million/year cap hit for three more years after this season.

Holy smokes that is just atrocious.

[bax]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Not directed at you but i see a lot of this sentiment like this or at least i think i am


I don't get the want to move Frolik off that line.

Is it the tweets from Walsh?

Cause as soon as Frolik replaced Bennett on that line, this team changed offensively. Who knows if it continues, but it is a movie we have seen before.

Frolik is on a 46 pt pace for the season with no PP time, Silvferberg 38 playing over 2 min a game while on the PP.

Defensively, Frolik is head and shoulders better, and is a good PK guy.

He may not be a prototypical 2nd line F, but on this club he fills that spot perfectly.

If it aint broke, dont fix it.

Agreed. If anything they could put Silfverberg on the third line and push Neal to the 4th

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Peters seems pretty comfortable with it this season.

Regular season is not playoffs.

My guess is that management sees it the same way. Peters is using who he has at his disposal and doing it well. I just have to believe that BT and company would feel better with one more vet LD.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by transplant99

My thoughts on ANY F they bring in is to firm up the
Mangiapane/Czarnik/whomever spot...hence why he would make the club bigger and a Zuccarello would make them smaller.

and maybe even allow Neal a 4th line role or press box duty in spots? (only somewhat joking)

Also...by the time the PO roll around its likely the club will have some injuries to deal with and there could be spots open for all mentioned thus far.

He may not be the optimal option, but he's certainly one option.

Would Stone for Brassard work for both clubs assuming Stone is back and playing by the end of Feb?

Or is Stone the exact depth guy you want going into a playoff run you think you should go somewhat deep in?

I don't think it is any surprise Francis has broken news in the last week on two guys the flames will be shopping come deadline.

Let's be real about stone here: he isn't out because of the blood clot, he's out of the lineup because he is not regularly one of the top 6 defenders in the organization. Kylington is in to cover valimakis injury, not stones.

If you get an opportunity to move stones cap hit next year, you do it.

He is likely the teams 8th best defender next season. Making 3.5.

Time for a trade.

[agulati]

^Who is the other player Francis spoke about other than Stone?

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Was looking up Silvferberg and saw Ryan Kesler has 6 points in 43 games, at a $6.9 million/year cap hit for three more years after this season.

Holy smokes that is just atrocious.

Edmonton says "Pick em up!"

[Love]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Not directed at you but i see a lot of this sentiment like this or at least i think i am


I don't get the want to move Frolik off that line.

Is it the tweets from Walsh?

Cause as soon as Frolik replaced Bennett on that line, this team changed offensively. Who knows if it continues, but it is a movie we have seen before.

Frolik is on a 46 pt pace for the season with no PP time, Silvferberg 38 playing over 2 min a game while on the PP.

Defensively, Frolik is head and shoulders better, and is a good PK guy.

He may not be a prototypical 2nd line F, but on this club he fills that spot perfectly.

If it aint broke, dont fix it.

Just thinking about fit to maximize production. Of course 3M can always be returned to but Silfverberg is a much more of natural shooter than Frolik is so I think he'd benefit most from Tkachuk's playmaking. Frolik's versatile self can then slide down to create and carry a '2B' line, since historically he has been know to elevate his linemates regardless of situation

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by agulati

^Who is the other player Francis spoke about other than Stone?

Lazar

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Was looking up Silvferberg and saw Ryan Kesler has 6 points in 43 games, at a $6.9 million/year cap hit for three more years after this season.

Holy smokes that is just atrocious.

Some posters don't want to hear it, but we're all living through the cautionary tale of LA, Chicago, Anaheim.

[TheIronMaiden]

An interesting buyer this season will be Colorado.

They have a ton of picks ( two 1sts), a ton of cap 33M before the cap does up, (granted they have to sign Ratanan and Varlamov).

They are in a playoff spot, despite poor depth and play as of late.

They are in the right position to bring some players in and then pay them in the off season. Gotta wonder if they have the all clear from management to spend to the cap, if they do I could see them bringing in some of the big names.