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				Yeah. Got that. I was just going through scenarios equally stupid as running it over to death. 
			
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To be fair, most times you hear about some creature getting run over, it is usually fatal.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			maybe they should do an audit of the entire lethbridge dettachment or the RCMP as a whole.  perhaps there is a culture of officers running over animals with patrol vehicles. 
 
good grief, who of us has not made a mistake at work.  it is not like he ran over a kid here.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-10-2019, 11:25 AM
			
			
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				maybe they should do an audit of the entire lethbridge dettachment or the RCMP as a whole.  perhaps there is a culture of officers running over animals with patrol vehicles. 
 
good grief, who of us has not made a mistake at work.  it is not like he ran over a kid here. 
			
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			01-10-2019, 11:25 AM
			
			
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			01-10-2019, 11:30 AM
			
			
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			01-10-2019, 11:42 AM
			
			
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				maybe they should do an audit of the entire lethbridge dettachment or the RCMP as a whole. perhaps there is a culture of officers running over animals with patrol vehicles. 
 
good grief, who of us has not made a mistake at work. it is not like he ran over a kid here. 
			
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repeatedly running over an animal for 15 minutes to kill it happens to be more than a simple "mistake at work". I don't see how you can brush it off as such.
 
it really can't be compared to failing to file your TPS report with a cover sheet.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2019, 11:49 AM
			
			
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			^ You're right, obviously that is much worse.  We've known for years to put the cover sheets on those.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2019, 11:52 AM
			
			
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				To be fair the best and brightest don't typically go into law enforcement. 
			
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Really?
 
Canadian Police (while not perfect, no profession is) are a damn site better than a large percentage of the world.
 
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			01-10-2019, 11:52 AM
			
			
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				maybe they should do an audit of the entire lethbridge dettachment or the RCMP as a whole.  perhaps there is a culture of officers running over animals with patrol vehicles. 
 
good grief, who of us has not made a mistake at work.  it is not like he ran over a kid here. 
			
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What are you talking about? This person is required to make life and death decisions on the job on a daily basis.  Their mistakes cost people lives.  15 minutes isn't a split second, that's an eternity running over a screaming animal.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-10-2019, 11:58 AM
			
			
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				good grief, who of us has not made a mistake at work.  it is not like he ran over a kid here. 
			
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There's a policy in place for situations like this. The officer failed to follow that policy. That failure alone seems like cause for disciplinary action. As noted, it wasn't a split second decision - he had plenty of time to re-think this and consider whether or not there was something else he should be doing. Doesn't reflect particularly good judgment, and in this case, he caused a bunch of suffering that wasn't necessary. If you're his supervisor, how are you not questioning his ability to do the job?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-10-2019, 12:01 PM
			
			
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			What if a citizen did this? What would be the potential repercussions?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2019, 12:09 PM
			
			
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Max fine of 10k, max prison term of 5 years, assuming it falls under the same code as domestic animals, but I'm not sure it would.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2019, 12:10 PM
			
			
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				There's a policy in place for situations like this. The officer failed to follow that policy. That failure alone seems like cause for disciplinary action. As noted, it wasn't a split second decision - he had plenty of time to re-think this and consider whether or not there was something else he should be doing. Doesn't reflect particularly good judgment, and in this case, he caused a bunch of suffering that wasn't necessary. If you're his supervisor, how are you not questioning his ability to do the job? 
			
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Likely, but I have not seen that policy reported in the news, if there is one I would be interested in seeing the link.
 
It does seem like a poor decision by the officer but keep in mind the procedure when police fire their weapon - I believe it is a pretty thorough investigation and maybe in the back of his mind he was thinking of all the BS that was going to happen if he did. 
 
Years ago my brother came upon an accident in northern BC where a vehicle had struck and injured a moose, the RCMP officer who attended would not shoot it either.
 
I'll leave this post with the following link to an incident in BC about 15 years ago. Different animal and different situation but it does show that things do not always go as planned when you decide to shoot an animal in public. 
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			01-10-2019, 12:12 PM
			
			
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				Likely, but I have not seen that policy reported in the news, if there is one I would be interested in seeing the link. 
			
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Just hearsay, I'm basing it on what was posted on the first page, which sounded plausible to me:
 
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Anyway, I am curious... if I hit a deer and it's suffering, I'm probably going to try to call Fish and Wildlife. But if I'm out of cell range, what actually is a private citizen supposed to do in this scenario?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-10-2019, 12:13 PM
			
			
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				maybe they should do an audit of the entire lethbridge dettachment or the RCMP as a whole. perhaps there is a culture of officers running over animals with patrol vehicles. 
 
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I repeatedly run over a co-worker for 15 minutes with the mail cart one time and I never hear the end of it!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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I think both these statements are true. You being right does not at all negate what Erick posted.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2019, 12:20 PM
			
			
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				Yeah, exact same scenario happened to me today. 
			
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I know! I get so sick of those goddamned Deer running through the office!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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