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				If Johnny feels bad imagine how Kucherov feels. 
			
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			01-09-2019, 03:49 PM
			
			
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				If Johnny feels bad imagine how Kucherov feels. 
			
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He goes up to $9.5 Million next year for 8 years.
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			01-09-2019, 03:49 PM
			
			
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			I'm sure Johnny et al are fine with their paychecks and being able to have top tier players around them.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2019, 03:50 PM
			
			
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			not a fan of renegotiation tactics personally. 
 
no one is forcing you to sign that contract and both sides are carrying risk. 
 
A) the player is trying to determine what his market value is at the time and what a reasonable salary is at the end of the contract. b) the Club is trying to see what works in their salary structure, what the market is and what the projected performance is relative to cap increases and the player's performances to date. 
 
the offer is made and signed in good faith. 
 
Sure the player can hold out... can the teams refuse to pay out a contract based on lack of performance? Or ask for money back?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2019, 03:52 PM
			
			
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				I'm sure Johnny et al are fine with their paychecks and being able to have top tier players around them. 
			
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Ya I am sure Johnny isn’t bitter at all that he took a smaller piece of the pie so Treliving could sign guys like Brouwer and Neal   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2019, 03:55 PM
			
			
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				not a fan of renegotiation tactics personally. 
 
no one is forcing you to sign that contract and both sides are carrying risk. 
 
A) the player is trying to determine what his market value is at the time and what a reasonable salary is at the end of the contract. b) the Club is trying to see what works in their salary structure, what the market is and what the projected performance is relative to cap increases and the player's performances to date. 
 
the offer is made and signed in good faith. 
 
Sure the player can hold out... can the teams refuse to pay out a contract based on lack of performance? Or ask for money back? 
			
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Only Edmonton and LA.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2019, 04:00 PM
			
			
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			Isn't all this Johnny talk a lot of speculation given the fact that he seems completely happy this year and we're seeing "Scoreface" on a regular basis?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2019, 04:00 PM
			
			
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				Isn't all this Johnny talk a lot of speculation given the fact that he seems completely happy this year and we're seeing "Scoreface" on a regular basis? 
			
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What it really has nothing to do with is Edmonton being No Good.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2019, 04:01 PM
			
			
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				Ya I am sure Johnny isn’t bitter at all that he took a smaller piece of the pie so Treliving could sign guys like Brouwer and Neal    
			
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LOL. 
 
Or Giordano 
Or Brodie 
Or Lindholm 
Or Hanifin 
Or Monahan 
Or Backlund 
Or Tkachuk (soon)...
 
Wait that's weird. Those are the players that matter.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2019, 04:03 PM
			
			
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			What the hell is going on in this thread?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2019, 04:12 PM
			
			
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			I came to read about Chia's latest screw up and for the first time in a long time I'm leaving disappointed
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2019, 04:12 PM
			
			
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			Edmonton is no good.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2019, 04:12 PM
			
			
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				Ya I am sure Johnny isn’t bitter at all that he took a smaller piece of the pie so Treliving could sign guys like Brouwer and Neal    
			
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SIGH....
  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2019, 04:13 PM
			
			
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				I came to read about Chia's latest screw up and for the first time in a long time I'm leaving disappointed 
			
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The man has to take a break sometimes! He cant be screwing up 24/7! Hes just a man not a machine!
 
Leave Chia alone! Hes doing the best he can!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2019, 04:16 PM
			
			
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			I thought this thread was E=NG, not G=NE (Gaudreau = Not Encashed)?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2019, 04:16 PM
			
			
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				What the hell is going on in this thread? 
			
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			01-09-2019, 04:22 PM
			
			
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				I suppose you have to adjust this number because you end up double counting production wherever Johnny and Monnie combine on a goal (which is a lot).   
 
The first stat is way better.  Or else combine Draisaitl and McDavid versus Monahan and Gaudreau for points per million. 
			
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Ask and you shall receive:
 
Monahan + Gaudreau @ 13.125M = 49G 69A 118P = 9 Points/Million Salary
 
Mcdavid + Draisaitl @ 21.0M = 47G 68A 115P = 5.5 Points/Million Salary
 
So Drai does bring up the average .5 points per million, meaning in a vacuum with my rudimentary proxy for Value, Draisaitl is more valuable than McDavid! (not a statistician)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			01-09-2019, 04:38 PM
			
			
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			01-09-2019, 04:40 PM
			
			
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				I'm well aware of this. I make a bet with my Oilers friend every year which team will finish with more points and I've only lost once. 
			
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My same yearly bet is for $10.  
Per point 
  
Have lost twice. Think I'm somewhere around $1300 up
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2019, 04:55 PM
			
			
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				Would you not feel underpaid if you were earning 54% of your closest comparable colleague in your office? 
			
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I'm not sure that's an appropriate comparison. Professional athlete salary structures are somewhat different than typical office salaries.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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